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Old 06-12-2013, 06:48 AM
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So I take it order banks are not yet open.

Is there a new estimate on this?
As Milous has said there is 10 weeks of build left then it is possible for a July orders date but more likely first Tuesday in August. Just an educated guess on provided information
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As Milous has said there is 10 weeks of build left then it is possible for a July orders date but more likely first Tuesday in August. Just an educated guess on provided information
Thanks...the last piece of the order puzzle for me would be to know if the Blu-Ray entertainment system will be available when the order banks open up, or if it will be later availability. Probably won't know until the order banks actually open though?

Or is Blu-ray now available for order on the Jeep Grand Cherokee?
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:54 AM
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Thanks...the last piece of the order puzzle for me would be to know if the Blu-Ray entertainment system will be available when the order banks open up, or if it will be later availability. Probably won't know until the order banks actually open though?

Or is Blu-ray now available for order on the Jeep Grand Cherokee?
No.... July apparently?
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As Milous has said there is 10 weeks of build left then it is possible for a July orders date but more likely first Tuesday in August. Just an educated guess on provided information
Not sure I follow your logic. Seems like a very small window between accepting orders in late July early August and still starting production on 8/19 (assuming production stops on 8/17 for my13).

As long as production remains on schedule, my wife won't kill me for making her drive around in her current POS.
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:28 PM
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Not sure I follow your logic. Seems like a very small window between accepting orders in late July early August and still starting production on 8/19 (assuming production stops on 8/17 for my13).

As long as production remains on schedule, my wife won't kill me for making her drive around in her current POS.
Sorry don't understand the issue. Build capacity would be pre-set. If orders opened on the 6th of August for a 19th build.... parts are arriving as scheduled and they would start building. Plant shutdowns have already been canceled and the Pilot builds are done (more than 100). Why would they not want to be producing the 2014 in a short window. It isn't a new platform, so there is no dolly reconfiguration.... they will just build them.

I don't honestly know the dates but I do know how they switch the line and since they have been building them already they can flip the switch shortly after build out. I was simply lining it up with a nominal order bank.

Maybe Marlon can comment better on ability to switch production in a very short time frame?
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Sorry don't understand the issue. Build capacity would be pre-set. If orders opened on the 6th of August for a 19th build.... parts are arriving as scheduled and they would start building. Plant shutdowns have already been canceled and the Pilot builds are done (more than 100). Why would they not want to be producing the 2014 in a short window. It isn't a new platform, so there is no dolly reconfiguration.... they will just build them.

I don't honestly know the dates but I do know how they switch the line and since they have been building them already they can flip the switch shortly after build out. I was simply lining it up with a nominal order bank.

Maybe Marlon can comment better on ability to switch production in a very short time frame?
I wasn't referring to the production switch from my13 to my14, which appears to be happening within a couple days. It just seems like a short window between orders opening and production. When I ordered my Explorer several years ago, the window was 3 months. i have no idea how supply chains, orders, allocations, etc work. Speaking of which, how long am I looking at from order to delivery, assuming top priority, no dealer allocation or factory commodity issues? I know it's an impossible question with so many factors, but just trying to get some perspective.
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On the Grand Cherokee build there were people who took delivery within 5 weeks of order acceptance... First units take longer though due to extra QC. Marlon said new build seems to be around 60 days.
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Seen people get the Grand Cherokees 5 weeks from order to drive way. First build would be longer.... I Believe Marlon said 60 days is closer on new build but he is the expert.
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Milous, are the invoice prices out yet? My wife likes my jeep interior and is itching for a Durango. We need the 3 rows for her veh
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Re: 2014 Durango - Features and Changes

Is there any data for the improvement in fuel economy and performance for the '14 R/T?
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The end of 2013 production is near!

(And I can't wait because I never liked the '11-13...)
really? interesting... whats so different on the '14
that makes you prefer that one?

Doesn't seem all that new or different, but if anything I feel the opposite -
'13 looks meaner and tougher...front and back

not a big fan of the changes to the '14, except maybe the tails' are cute..
and the seat-back entertainment system is nice, and sure the 8-speed..

but I prefer my '13 gauges, front grill/fascia/headlights, and tint-able taillights..

I guess a bigger infotainment system is nice, but thats minor...i dumped the wheels within a week for 22's so wheel design changes there are moot for me at least...and most enthusiasts

no traditional shifter/new shift knob, ehh whatever...not sure how I feel about those knobs in general

Guess everyone has different taste and vision..

Wake me up when an SRT model is starting production! until then, <yawning>
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really? interesting... whats so different on the '14
that makes you prefer that one?
Well, speaking for myself....

I too prefer the "meaner / tougher" look of crossovers / SUVs...but for me, I think the '14 looks better in this regard (though just from the front). From the rear, neither one does much for me...but at least the '14s tail lights are distinctive without being "hit you over the head" glaring.

I will most likely be looking at a Citadel V-6. From the Jeep GC reviews I've read, the 8 speed makes a world of difference with the V-6.

Front grill...I may give the edge to the '13 when looking at the Citadel trim. I believe the '14s grill is 100% chrome crosshair on 100% chrome mesh. Whereas the '13s grill (I think) has some black behind the cross-hair. Generally, I would prefer to not have 100% chrome everything on the grill.

Wheels...maybe I'm not an "enthusiast", because I generally tend to just stick with the factory wheels. The '13 wheels on the Citadel trim look like hideous hunks of shiny plastic. If I bought a '13 citadel, then it would be one of the rare times I would feel "forced" to replace the wheels. The '14s look to be much improved and something I could live with pending seeing them in person. (I saw the '14 Durango at the NY Auto show, but they had 22s on them...)

Gauges: I much prefer the '14's 7" customizable center TFT over the 13s layout. Same with the center stack / navigation.

Shift knob: Here I would probably prefer the '13 layout over the '14. I don't mind the concept of the electronic knob, but in a "family hauler", if you're going to use a knob...take it off the center console and utilize the new found space on the console for extra storage. Put the knob on the dash (like the RAM trucks).

Having the paddle shifters on the steering wheel is also not ideal for me, because shifting while making turns can be cumbersome...so I generally prefer to have a shift lever on the console. (It's also where I tend to like to rest my hand while driving.) Then again, my current family hauler is a '02 Pontiac Montana minivan with the shifter on the steering column and no manual shifting capability what-so-ever. So anything will be a vast improvement.

That's the one place where I think they made the wrong decisions with the '14...they not only went with a shift knob and paddle shifters, but they left the knob on the console just to add insult to injury.

In the end, while there are some things I prefer about the '13...overall I much prefer the '14. (Not having yet driven a '14 of course...)
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