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Old 08-02-2013, 01:59 PM
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Re: 2014 Durango - Features and Changes

Post # 1 updated (fabric/wheel images, specs PDF - see bottom of post #1).
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[QUOTE="Temerarius;868856"]

Nope.

But, make sure you get it in writing (email) that they will offer you X% under invoice and then make sure you DO THE MATHS. That means setting up a spreadsheet that lays out the base model you are ordering, all the options as line items, the MSRP Price, the Invoice price, and the "discounted" price. Make sure you include things like Sales Tax, Doc Fee, and Destination Fee. Present that to the dealer via email and get their approval that your numbers are correct (or atleast within a couple hundred dollars).

Make sure that you get a written agreement that those numbers are correct from the dealer. If they vary, make sure they explain why, and that the reason makes good sense (Licensing fee maybe wonky for instance).

If the doc fee is more than competitors (should be listed in fine print in all web ads and print ads), demand clarification (i.e. Call them on their BS).

IF you have a trade in, take it to SEVERAL dealers to get "bids" on what they'd offer on the rig. Use that as leverage going in.

And remember, if they get twitchy and won't agree to this stuff or their destination fee is high, their Doc Fee is high, and they won't budge... go to another dealer. You can have a dealer intercept a transport or even swap a rig from another lot and have it brought to their dealership for no extra cost (if they say otherwise, walk away).

As for going under invoice, you will find it's far more common than you may think. If you come in with a control number and some confidence, you should be walking out with *atleast* 2-3% under invoice. If you deal with a high volume place, you can squeeze out an additional 2%-4% on top of that.

Temerarius, you have been so helpful, and I will be well armed with info, my spreadsheet and a smidge more confidence going forward. And a calculator. Just want to make sure I have a deal I am comfortable with so I don't miss out when the 9th rolls around. Still might go look at a JGC over the weekend. Curious about the goodies you mentioned.
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:45 PM
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Re: 2014 Durango - Features and Changes

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Post # 1 updated (fabric/wheel images, specs PDF - see bottom of post #1).
Thanks! But geeze... is it possible to have an even worse pic of the wheels?

I'm still not sure exactly what the finish is on the Citadel wheels. Chryco likes to put "polished aluminum" to describe anything from a chrome appearance to a painted silver and polished....

The dodge 2014 reveal site doesn't help either. There's a pic of a black citadel with wheels that look like chrome finish, but the "wheel" section and a pic of a granite citadel that makes it look like painted gray and polished.

Can anyone confirm what the actual finish of the Citadel wheels are (chrome or not?)
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Any 2014 Durango shoppers have encouraging updates? I've now contacted seven dealers and I've gotten a variety of replies. I've clearly laid out what I want to order, explained that I have an affiliate control number and I've asked for the best discount they can offer (hard to ask for the best price without pricing, Chrysler). I've also explained that I want to finalize a deal before Friday so an order can be placed as soon as the order banks reopen. My best deal so far is from a Houston dealership and salesperson who has made many JGC forum members quite happy. Funniest was a scolding from a Ft. Worth dealer telling me I was NOT entitled to anything beyond 1% below invoice, but since I bothered to contact him he offered to tint my windows. I have to go back and check, but thought they came that way from the factory. Lastly, I've had two replies from a dude in the Dallas area who hasn't bothered to read any of the detail in my emails to him. Want the deal finalized BEFORE Friday, DON'T live in Dallas yet, but likely will by the time the vehicle is available......so what is his idea? Let's sit across the desk Friday morning at 8 to discuss. Don't know whether my next correspondence should be in a larger font or all caps. Perhaps I'll break thru with my third attempt.
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I need to become a car salesman and just become a sponsor for all the major chrysler forums. I bet I would make a killing by just being fair, honest, and knowledgeable.
In today's world, with so much info available online, and so many peer to peer groups helping each other, Immo I think you would make that killing!
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Re: 2014 Durango - Features and Changes

I realize/know that this is a 2014 thread, so I'll keep this brief...

I had posted last week about my trials trying to get my local dealer to bite on a 2014 order, but was willing to work with me on locating a 2013 Crew (w/trailer tow, sunroof, Uconnect 430N, Crew Convenience and 20" wheels, which we had to take to get the rest). My wife decided she didn't need some of the extras on the Citadel, and was worried the perforated seats would be a bitch to clean and would wear much faster.

Given that we need to replace my wife's Odyssey now (before something else breaks), and she's fine not having the latest model I gave up the chase on a 2014.

We went to the dealer Saturday and came away with their seemingly best offer of MSRP - current incentives. . They made some noise about not being able to deal as much in a swap situation.

I offered them $34k, but after we left I realized they may have thought I meant $34k, and then take the incentives where I really meant $34k. So, when the salesman calls today we'll see what transpires.

We also decided that the two the located for us (Black/Grey interior and Granite/Black interior) are really not the colors we want. Those two were the first they found equipped the way we wanted (we'd initially said any color but white).

Late Saturday I found, through the Dodge website a True Blue/Grey in transit to another NJ dealer. I want to let my dealer know I found it and see if they can intercept the truck and agree to my offer.

We'll see....
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Re: 2014 Durango - Features and Changes

Why don't you just contact that other dealer and ask for invoice minus current incentives and see if the take the deal. Sorry, but MSRP minus incentives is a terrible deall on a Durango Crew and if I am dealing with a dealer that says that is the best they can do, I walk immediately. JMHO
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Why don't you just contact that other dealer and ask for invoice minus current incentives and see if the take the deal. Sorry, but MSRP minus incentives is a terrible deall on a Durango Crew and if I am dealing with a dealer that says that is the best they can do, I walk immediately. JMHO
I contacted the other dealer on Saturday evening. The salesperson was going to talk to his manager and get back to me with an offer.

I didn't hear back, but realized later that I had called them after their normal Saturday hours. We'll see if I hear from them today.

Agree completely that MSRP - incentives is a terrible deal. I would have thought I could do better than invoice less incentives too.
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I'm going thru the same process. Currently my best quote is 2% under invoice using the affiliates program. That sales manager said Chrysler affiliate program gives them back 2% of invoice so he'd split it with me to make my deal 2% under. I'm working with 2 dealers and shooting for 3%.

Update: Got the 3% under invoice quote to order a '14 Citadel.
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This morning's excellent offer.....no more than 1% below invoice, but the dealer will throw in "some" oil changes. Don't think I'll bite just yet
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This morning's excellent offer.....no more than 1% below invoice, but the dealer will throw in "some" oil changes. Don't think I'll bite just yet
Well, you're doing better than me. I've heard not a peep from either dealer from Saturday (and I'm trying to buy a 2013 that they should be all to happy to move considering what's coming in a few weeks).

Grrr...
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