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Please, enough with the "Sinister" description Dodge. I am buying a vehicle not a Cylon (although some reviewer did describe the taillights as Cylon looking).
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Very interesting features to value discussion video:
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Re: 2014 Durango - Features and Changes

Hey Gang. I was able to call Vizualogic and see what their active headrest solution looks like. I was a bit nervous that it would be too bulky, but it doesn't look bad to me at all.

These guys claim to match the interior materials "perfectly", and I agree it looks factory.

Here is a photo of the tablet active headrest piece.

Not bad eh?
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Old 09-24-2013, 03:34 PM
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Re: 2014 Durango - Features and Changes

Helps to load the file


While I'm at it, here is a flyer that shows a non-active headrest, but the info it lists shows exactly what comes included with the tablet active headrest solution.
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Re: 2014 Durango - Features and Changes

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While I'm at it, here is a flyer that shows a non-active headrest, but the info it lists shows exactly what comes included with the tablet active headrest solution.
The Owner's Manual talks about the Active Head Restraints on the Durango and says this at page 62:

"The Occupant Restraint Controller (ORC) determines whether the severity, or type of rear impact will require the Active Head Restraints (AHR) to deploy. If a rear impact requires deployment, both the driver and front passenger seat AHRs will be deployed. When AHRs deploy during a rear impact, the front half of the head restraint extends forward to minimize the gap between the back of the occupant’s head and the AHR. This system is designed to help prevent or reduce the extent of injuries to the driver and front passenger in certain types of rear impacts.

NOTE: The Active Head Restraints (AHR) may or may not deploy in the event of a front or side impact. However if during a front impact, a secondary rear impact occurs, the AHR may deploy based on the sever- ity and type of the impact."

I personnally would not want to muck around with a solution that replaces the Active Head Restraints or potentially interferes with them. While Chrysler certainly can make design mistakes, they're a big company, with the financial wherewithal, either on their own or through reinsurance, to stand behind their products. I doubt the same can be said for this company. I appreciate your posts, but I, for one, wouldn't bite.
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Re: 2014 Durango - Features and Changes

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I personnally would not want to muck around with a solution that replaces the Active Head Restraints or potentially interferes with them.
You and I, my friend, are on the same page. However I don't think this is as much of a gamble as you intimated. After market solutions for active restraint headrests have been on the market as long as the headrests themselves. Mercedes and higher end brands have had them for a while. Now what I'm going to say next is more inquisitive than definitive. If these things were remotely possible of compromising the safety, I wonder if there are complaints out there on the Internet? (I'll check when I get home)

As for "mucking" I would reserve that for dealers who actually open up the active headrests and find room to install the monitors/players despite the warnings. Sounds like the ones I mentioned sit safely behind the factory headrests.
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Re: 2014 Durango - Features and Changes

Better get some references that these guys have tied into the 2014 electrical systems... There have been issues, just make sure the installer has experience with the 2014s, they ARE NOT the same animal.

Excerpt from diagnostics below.

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Special design considerations are incorporated into this vehicle's electronic systems to optimize the
performance and operation. Any aftermarket equipment installations altering the operation of the
current circuit functions including load shedding power sources should be considered and installed
only by trained personnel.


Aftermarket installations affecting our systems have involved, routing of wiring along with the
connections to direct power sources, connections to load shedding power sources and grounding
locations. Some documented symptoms created from these installations have been, battery drain,
navigation system and cluster continuous boot up, erratic warning lamp illumination, interior lamps
that stay illuminated. These are some of the conditions that have been attributed to aftermarket
installations. Review any suspect conditions combined with a potential aftermarket installation to
define the appropriate repair action.

In some cases identifying if the vehicle is going into a bus sleep state, vehicle off minimal IOD and
remaining in that state as expected, can help identify any add on component issues. Verification
could be done through IOD monitoring for power up and down cycles showing higher then expected ignition off draw.

o Examples: Radios, Amplifiers, DVD Players And Screens
o These could have enough draw to cause load shed mitigation (probably on a different circuit)
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Better get some references that these guys have tied into the 2014 electrical systems... There have been issues, just make sure the installer has experience with the 2014s, they ARE NOT the same animal.

Excerpt from diagnostics below.

Discussion:
Special design considerations are incorporated into this vehicle's electronic systems to optimize the
performance and operation. Any aftermarket equipment installations altering the operation of the
current circuit functions including load shedding power sources should be considered and installed
only by trained personnel.


Aftermarket installations affecting our systems have involved, routing of wiring along with the
connections to direct power sources, connections to load shedding power sources and grounding
locations. Some documented symptoms created from these installations have been, battery drain,
navigation system and cluster continuous boot up, erratic warning lamp illumination, interior lamps
that stay illuminated. These are some of the conditions that have been attributed to aftermarket
installations. Review any suspect conditions combined with a potential aftermarket installation to
define the appropriate repair action.

In some cases identifying if the vehicle is going into a bus sleep state, vehicle off minimal IOD and
remaining in that state as expected, can help identify any add on component issues. Verification
could be done through IOD monitoring for power up and down cycles showing higher then expected ignition off draw.

o Examples: Radios, Amplifiers, DVD Players And Screens
o These could have enough draw to cause load shed mitigation (probably on a different circuit)
Thanks for the heads up. This sounds like good info to take with me to determine if they know what they are doing. If not... I'll walk away like Pacino in Heat

It's more likely that I'll have my posse with me (a.k.a. my bro-in-law who is a robotics engineer) and have him do the grilling while I repeat an occasional "Yeah!".
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Re: 2014 Durango - Features and Changes

Ugh, directly from Chrysler customer service:

"According to our provided resources, we have a preliminary release date of Nov 18, 2013 for the Rear Seat DVD Entertainment System, but please be advised that this information is preliminary and may be subject to*change."

That means I wouldn't get my Durango until 1st half of January. What to do, what's to do. I can wait that long, but I really don't want to.
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Ugh, directly from Chrysler customer service:

"According to our provided resources, we have a preliminary release date of Nov 18, 2013 for the Rear Seat DVD Entertainment System, but please be advised that this information is preliminary and may be subject to*change."
@$&*@!%&$&@!!

I'm hoping and praying that what they mean by "release date" is that's when they expect them to either start hitting showrooms, or perhaps when they will be available again for new orders. If this is in fact the new estimate for first production I am going to seriously consider cancelling my order.
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@$&*@!%&$&@!!

I'm hoping and praying that what they mean by "release date" is that's when they expect them to either start hitting showrooms, or perhaps when they will be available again for new orders. If this is in fact the new estimate for first production I am going to seriously consider cancelling my order.
I can't even begin to fathom the frustration you must be feeling.

Be interesting to see what Milous or Willx can offer on this. I think if it were me....but then my patience is often thin on stuff like this.
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I can't even begin to fathom the frustration you must be feeling.

Be interesting to see what Milous or Willx can offer on this. I think if it were me....but then my patience is often thin on stuff like this.
I think I know what the WK2 CRD folks feel like!

It's just that the goalposts seem to be continually moving with respect to this feature...and if the date is indeed changing to late November, what confidence should I have for THAT date to be met? I placed an order back in JULY, and at the time it wasn't even stated as late availability.

I will wait for Oct 1 before I PM Milous directly on this...don't like to pester him until after the latest estimated dates come and go.

But seriously, if delivery wouldn't be until December or Jan, that will almost force me to wait until the 2014 Toyota highlander is released so I could consider that vehicle. It would also mean one more 2000 mile round trip in my aged Pontiac Montana (Thanksgiving trip), which means I would need to sink more money into that (new tires, probably rear brakes, O2 sensor)....Even the 2015 Yukon might come into play.

Sigh.
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