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I think I know what the WK2 CRD folks feel like!

It's just that the goalposts seem to be continually moving with respect to this feature...and if the date is indeed changing to late November, what confidence should I have for THAT date to be met? I placed an order back in JULY, and at the time it wasn't even stated as late availability.

I will wait for Oct 1 before I PM Milous directly on this...don't like to pester him until after the latest estimated dates come and go.

But seriously, if delivery wouldn't be until December or Jan, that will almost force me to wait until the 2014 Toyota highlander is released so I could consider that vehicle. It would also mean one more 2000 mile round trip in my aged Pontiac Montana (Thanksgiving trip), which means I would need to sink more money into that (new tires, probably rear brakes, O2 sensor)....Even the 2015 Yukon might come into play.

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The segment is certainly chock full of choices which makes the waiting more frustrating.

I hear you on not wanting to sink $ into a vehicle you're getting rid of just to get you through till the new one arrives. Might I suggest renting a vehicle? You might find it cheaper to do that then repair something you're going to get rid of anyway...

I also totally get the longer you have to wait the more options you have from competitors. I'm two years (or so) from replacing my Yukon XL with a more efficient vehicle (the Durango will take over towing duties once the GMC is gone) and I'm already second guessing my original choice.

I was originally set on a VW GTD, but already other upcoming vehicles have piqued my interest (VW Cross Blue concept, Mazda 6 diesel, etc...)

I've never been a real Toyota fan - don't like their interiors and the overall "bland" of them. Stinks since we have friends that own a dealership, so we could always get a stellar deal on one.

The new Yukon/Yukon XL/Tahoe/Suburban looks very interesting, and the interior looks to be a huge upgrade as are the (finally!) flat folding seats and under floor storage. I just wish they'd put a diesel in them. The '15s definitely look like a choice against the Durango now (except maybe for fuel efficiency). I do think GM missed a chance by carrying over the 6 speed transmission. If the SUVs have the same offset steering wheel that the pick-ups do that would be a big negative in my book.

I guess we're lucky that we live someplace where we have choices - maybe too many sometimes...
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Might I suggest renting a vehicle? You might find it cheaper to do that then repair something you're going to get rid of anyway...
Good suggestion and I will consider it. I should be able to recoup some of the cost on the repairs of the minivan though when I sell it, so it's not just a straight repair cost vs. rental cost comparison.

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I've never been a real Toyota fan - don't like their interiors and the overall "bland" of them. Stinks since we have friends that own a dealership, so we could always get a stellar deal on one.
I'm a fan of Toyota quality (my other car is an '08 Lexus GS350, 100K miles and zero probs), but I 100% agree on the Toyota styling. The '14 highlander is a step in the right direction, but still the styling doesn't do it for me.

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The new Yukon/Yukon XL/Tahoe/Suburban looks very interesting, and the interior looks to be a huge upgrade as are the (finally!) flat folding seats and under floor storage.
Lack of flat folding seats is why I didn't even consider them in the '14 model year. I'm still leaning against "trucks" and more toward crossovers for (as you mentioned) the MPG, and also the ride that crossovers give vs. trucks.

I've decided that one feature I "must have" in my new ride though is adaptive cruise, which will be offered on the '14 highlander as an option...not sure about the new GM trucks though.

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I guess we're lucky that we live someplace where we have choices - maybe too many sometimes...
Yeah...and in the grand scheme if I have time to b*tch about a rear DVD entertainment system being late...then all things considered I'm lucky indeed.
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Old 09-25-2013, 09:09 AM
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I've decided that one feature I "must have" in my new ride though is adaptive cruise, which will be offered on the '14 highlander as an option...not sure about the new GM trucks though.
I think GM is offering it in the new trucks.

I don't use cruise control today, and neither does my wife for the most part, so it wasn't worth the step up to the Citadel for that. She also didn't want the vented seats.

I do hate the button blanks that feature imparts to the "lesser" models.
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I don't use cruise control today, and neither does my wife for the most part, so it wasn't worth the step up to the Citadel for that. She also didn't want the vented seats.
I don't use cruise control much today on my current ride...but only because it's not adaptive! (Which is why I'm demanding it in my new vehicle.) I end up constantly having to brake, resume, etc. It's practically more of a pain to use standard cruise control than it is to just drive.
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Re: 2014 Durango - Features and Changes

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I don't use cruise control much today on my current ride...but only because it's not adaptive! (Which is why I'm demanding it in my new vehicle.) I end up constantly having to brake, resume, etc. It's practically more of a pain to use standard cruise control than it is to just drive.
Picked up my Durango R/T yesterday, played with the Cruise control right away in traffic, it was fantastic. I do a lot of long drives.


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I don't use cruise control today, and neither does my wife for the most part, so it wasn't worth the step up to the Citadel for that. She also didn't want the vented seats.
Vented seats are worth it if you will be in the car too. Woman seem to always be cold. I questioned if i should get this until i used it and damn if it was not amazing in the heat. kept the whole body nice and cool.
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I don't use cruise control much today on my current ride...but only because it's not adaptive! (Which is why I'm demanding it in my new vehicle.) I end up constantly having to brake, resume, etc. It's practically more of a pain to use standard cruise control than it is to just drive.
We're fortunate in that neither of us have much of a commute. I work from home, and my wife is three miles away.

Even on our long highway trips I don't use it, and often we're towing the camper when I'd use it even less.

I can definitely see its appeal - had it been available on the Limited I probably would have sprung for it.
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Picked up my Durango R/T yesterday, played with the Cruise control right away in traffic, it was fantastic. I do a lot of long drives.
Heard the same positive feedback from the Grand Cherokee owners. Congrats on the new R/T!
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Picked up my Durango R/T yesterday, played with the Cruise control right away in traffic, it was fantastic. I do a lot of long drives.

Vented seats are worth it if you will be in the car too. Woman seem to always be cold. I questioned if i should get this until i used it and damn if it was not amazing in the heat. kept the whole body nice and cool.
I like and respect all the different opinions here, based largely on experience, desires, priority and budget. After my Durango's weekend of endurance training, mostly on the highway but in heavy traffic, I must state again how much I really like the ACC. I was one who rarely if ever used my cruise control, either because I had to resume too often or I just didn't think about it. This is a feature I plan to attempt to wear out on this vehicle., because there are plenty of long distance trips in its future. Sure get why it wouldn't be of much use to some.

I thought vented seats sounded gimmicky. Then I tried them in another vehicle in the Dallas heat. In a car with no remote start. Nice. I WISH I was always cold, as I might adapt to Dallas more readily. I am going to enjoy my ventilated seats, and they just might keep me from morphing into Maxine from Shoebox Greetings anymore than I already do. That makes two of us in our household quite happy.
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I like and respect all the different opinions here, based largely on experience, desires, priority and budget.
Well spoken. As do I.

I can appreciate everyone decision to go Limited, Citadel, R/T, STX based on any one of a number of factors (budget, features, looks).

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After my Durango's weekend of endurance training, mostly on the highway but in heavy traffic, I must state again how much I really like the ACC. I was one who rarely if ever used my cruise control, either because I had to resume too often or I just didn't think about it. This is a feature I plan to attempt to wear out on this vehicle., because there are plenty of long distance trips in its future. Sure get why it wouldn't be of much use to some.
Exactly! We're lucky in that most of our family is close. Road trips often involve towing where I never think cruise is a good idea.

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I thought vented seats sounded gimmicky. Then I tried them in another vehicle in the Dallas heat. In a car with no remote start. Nice. I WISH I was always cold, as I might adapt to Dallas more readily. I am going to enjoy my ventilated seats, and they just might keep me from morphing into Maxine from Shoebox Greetings anymore than I already do. That makes two of us in our household quite happy.
I hear you - if we lived in Texas I'm sure we'd be right there with you. Fact is - I'm usually cold too - I've been known to use my seat heaters on 60 degree days.


For us it was definitely a toss-up between the Limited and the Citadel. The Limited met 95% of what we wanted at a lower cost v the few extra options on the Citadel that were weren't sure we needed/wanted/liked.

The one thing the Limited doesn't have that the Citadel does.....power adjustment on the passenger seat for seat back angle. That's the one thing that strikes me as a cheap out....
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The one thing the Limited doesn't have that the Citadel does.....power adjustment on the passenger seat for seat back angle. That's the one thing that strikes me as a cheap out....
On the other hand, I believe by not having the power seat, you are able to fold the front passenger seat back flat which is more useful for hauling long cargo items.
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On the other hand, I believe by not having the power seat, you are able to fold the front passenger seat back flat which is more useful for hauling long cargo items.
To which my wife said, when I showed her that on a 2013, "Oh good - a kayak will fit..."
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On the other hand, I believe by not having the power seat, you are able to fold the front passenger seat back flat which is more useful for hauling long cargo items.
That's one feature I wish mine had.
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