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Tried to replicate the YouTube video with my Citadel and Hemi. Second try with remote start, as video wasn't running first time. More rumble upon start, then actually gets quieter as it idles.
Ha, forgot I had the remote start, smarty pants. That would have been alot easier and I wouldn't have had to edit the video for length. Mine quiets down too a little bit once at normal idle, should have let the vid run longer.
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The Hemi sounds great. thanks for making the video.
My pleasure. And it is a pleasure to drive.
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Ha, forgot I had the remote start, smarty pants. That would have been alot easier and I wouldn't have had to edit the video for length. Mine quiets down too a little bit once at normal idle, should have let the vid run longer.
Smarty pants? Me? Well that will likely be the ONLY time anyone thinks so on this forum, as I am WAYYY out of my league, but loving it! My doubts about buying a Chrysler were outweighed by the knowledge base on this forum, and I do continue to feel like I've had the great good fortune of tapping into a terrific advisory board.
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I wonder if the Flemington, NJ Dodge still has that fully loaded [Pilot] 2014 True Blue Citadel*with DVD.
For those wanting a DVD, this one is still available according to my dealer. I would go for it myself but it has captain chairs and I need a bench. It's got the Hemi, frost beige interior and fully loaded with options.
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Old 09-28-2013, 02:11 PM
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For those wanting a DVD, this one is still available according to my dealer. I would go for it myself but it has captain chairs and I need a bench. It's got the Hemi, frost beige interior and fully loaded with options.
I was seriously considering it, but it's got a couple marks against it (for me).

1) It's a Hemi and I'd prefer the V-6
2) Interior is the color I want but the exterior is true-blue. I think it is a good color combo actually, but that's the same color combo as our other car, and we want something different.
3) I'm a *little* nervous about the build being likely a pilot or pre-production that was "good enough" for a retail sale. (Maybe nothing to be concerned about, just my gut speaking.)

Having said all that...if it were granite...I would probably go for it.
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1) It's a Hemi and I'd prefer the V-6
3) I'm a *little* nervous about the build being likely a pilot or pre-production that was "good enough" for a retail sale. (Maybe nothing to be concerned about, just my gut speaking.)
You know with a Pilot the quality could probably swing either way. Exceptionally good quality since it was thoroughly reviewed or something missed entirely because an early build. Since this is a refreshed model year, I would be less concerned but of course I have no clue how it is on the assembly line.

I tested the v6 and was really impressed with the responsiveness with the 8-speed. If you do a total cost analysis of V8 vs V6 the difference is around $10,000 assuming average years and mileage and not taking into account time lost pumping, fun factor and speeding tickets ;-). Cost of engine, cost of fuel grade, engine efficiency equals around 5 DVD systems over time or 40 HDX Kindle Tablets :-$.

And regarding the rear entertainment system, we may soon be talking about it coming out in model year 2015 if they can't get issues with supplier resolved. I'm jumping ship if entertainment system can't meet Nov 18 build date.
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Re: 2014 Durango - Features and Changes

Well, finally ordered. Citadel, HEMI, max steel, light frost, 2nd row buckets, 2nd row console, tow package, tech package.

Still no check box showing up for the DVD, and unless I missed it, there was no option to request a keg of Dragon's Milk or Breakfast Stout be in the back at delivery.

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I tested the v6 and was really impressed with the responsiveness with the 8-speed. If you do a total cost analysis of V8 vs V6 the difference is around $10,000 assuming average years and mileage and not taking into account time lost pumping, fun factor and speeding tickets ;-). Cost of engine, cost of fuel grade, engine efficiency equals around 5 DVD systems over time or 40 HDX Kindle Tablets :-$.
Interesting numbers. Mine are a little different. At current gas prices $3.08 for reg, and my 18,500 miles per year (60% city), my annual approximate difference is $600ish. In terms of insurance, my 6 month premium for the HEMI is going to be $335.36 versus the Pentastar would have been $310.41. Granted fuel and insurance will go up, but certainly not enough to get us anywhere near $10,000 over the 5-7 years I'll own it.
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Interesting numbers. Mine are a little different. At current gas prices $3.08 for reg, and my 18,500 miles per year (60% city), my annual approximate difference is $600ish. In terms of insurance, my 6 month premium for the HEMI is going to be $335.36 versus the Pentastar would have been $310.41. Granted fuel and insurance will go up, but certainly not enough to get us anywhere near $10,000 over the 5-7 years I'll own it.
1) $2800 more to buy the Hemi but you probably got the lower invoice (or even lower) pricing rather than MSRP as everyone else on this forum.
2) Recommended octane for Hemi is higher so hopefully you included these in your $ estimates. By the way, my fuel costs are around $0.75 higher per gallon than yours.
3) Assume your $600 is correct over 7 years so that gets you to $4200 more or your balance is now at $7000. Granted your mileage is way above average.
4) People typically forget the interest costs with all these purchases. So the price time value of your money or the interest net present value of all these outflows really adds up. I expect a rising inflation rate over those seven years so 5% maybe be a good rate to estimate opportunity lost with your monies (outflows). At 5%, the interest cost is easily around $2000 over 7 years. Rule of thumb is that your cost doubles over 7 years at 10% so that your initial outlay of $2800 would be $5600 in lost opportunity if you could invest your money at 10% per year and we did not even include the $600 fuel costs pet year and the interest opportunity lost per year there. So back to $7000 plus my $2000 interest opportunity takes us to balance of $9000.
5) Finally, I would not be surprised at all the other incidentals could add up to another $1000 over 7 years taking you to $10,000. Maintenance costs may be higher given the Hemi maintenance regimen. Insurance under your own estimates may be another $200 during this time period. Synthetic oil changes cost more. Rising fuel costs. My own estimates were originally over a 10 year lifespan for the vehicle too. I am unfamiliar what the repair costs could be after warranty period has been exceeded.

I think the Hemi is a great engine and obviously more fun, but with Full Cost Pricing the true dollar difference is much higher. And I'm sure there will be times when I am going to wish I had a Hemi or that front passenger folding seat that I lost with the seat chilling option (I wish that option was just for the driver and not front passenger so I could have a front folding passenger seat too).
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Re: 2014 Durango - Features and Changes

I don't suppose anybody on here will know the answer to this besides Milous, but I wonder if the Durango my daughter is getting with a cd drive would be a straight swap out for a dvd drive when it becomes available through parts. Are they the same form factor? And what sort of video cabling does the dvd drive use? RCA jack? HDMI? Hard wired into the drive with a single video cable? Wonder if it would be possible, later on down the road to swap in a dvd drive and connect it to after market monitors. Just thinking....
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Re: 2014 Durango - Features and Changes

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I think the Hemi is a great engine and obviously more fun, but with Full Cost Pricing the true dollar difference is much higher. And I'm sure there will be times when I am going to wish I had a Hemi or that front passenger folding seat that I lost with the seat chilling option (I wish that option was just for the driver and not front passenger so I could have a front folding passenger seat too).
I'm not going to quote your whole post because I don't really care about the cost difference. I also definitely won't be wasting my money on mid-grade gasoline. Had it required premium, that would be different.

The only reasoning I need for choosing the HEMI over the Pentastar is "because I can". It's really more of a motto, than a reasoning.

I'm a pretty "frugal" person, in fact, very much so, but some things are worth the splurge. I'll chalk it up to an early midlife crisis at 35.

PS - Regular unleaded is down to $2.99/gallon this morning. No-ethanol, which I always get, is at $3.29.
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Re: 2014 Durango - Features and Changes

I saw some of you posted about a $1000 incentive a couple of weeks ago on the 14 Durangos, that expires Monday.
1) Dealers I visited did not seem to know anything about it.
2) If it is out there can it be applied to placing an order for one.
3) And if so where can I find the info to bring to dealer.
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I saw some of you posted about a $1000 incentive a couple of weeks ago on the 14 Durangos, that expires Monday.
1) Dealers I visited did not seem to know anything about it.
2) If it is out there can it be applied to placing an order for one.
3) And if so where can I find the info to bring to dealer.
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The dealer I bought mine through didn't know about the incentive until the day I bought it.

It is called out as "Model Rebate" on my paperwork. I bought mine Friday.
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