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Re: 2014 Durango towing

I'm really struggling with where to put the brake controller. I want to steer well clear of the knee airbag. I'm thinking it's going to go on the underside of the console near the gear shift dial. I originally ordered the P2 controller but that seemed to be a little too deep. I then ordered a P3 because the spec shows it about 1/2 less in depth (plus it seems much simpler to use).

If I use that spot for the P3 and use the bracket, it's hard to read the display and almost impossible to use the manual lever. The manual lever seems set back too far as it is. I'm thinking of heavy duty Velcro to gain more clearance.

Putting the P2 in the same spot, the display is angled up and the manual lever isn't quite as recessed. I could probably Velcro the bracket in that spot as well. It would be nearly impossible to use screws under there... unless I remove the entire plastic piece and if I do that, it would be difficult to mount it in line with the vehicle.

I'm not sure which one will win at this point. I think it would be challenging for me to use on the left side.

Regardless, the wiring adapter can be found tucked away above the parking brake pedal. You will probably need to pull away some of the felt but it pulls away easily. The adapter is tied to a cable bundle up above the parking brake pedal. Note that you will need to work upside down in some kind of position that would make a yoga instructor proud. No need to cut the wire tie and it's too easy to cut something else anyway. If you can't connect the wiring adapter to the connector as is, there is a little tab on the factory connector. Release the tab with a small screwdriver and gently pull the factory connector down. You'll also gain a few more inches in cable length.
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Re: 2014 Durango towing

Looking up from your yoga position near the parking brake pedal, looking towards the firewall, you'll see the factory connector for the brake controller. I ordered the wiring harness with the controller and it works perfectly without having to mess with wire connectors. Couldn't be easier. The harness is long enough to get it to the cubby near the gear selector and no further. Again, don't cut the cable tie on the factory connector. Use the tab to release it if necessary. It's not tight so you should be able to twist it around if you don't see the release tab.
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Re: 2014 Durango towing

I can't comment on what or where to mount it but how to mount it, use Scotch/3M 20lb double sided tape found at many hardware stores or online. I've used just about every velcro and tape mount product and I've found that's the best to use. It holds extremely solid with no free play, unlike velcro or other tape, and can be removed later with a little bit of effort if need be. You can double or triple up tape layers for needed clearance or use any kind of shim. It trims nicely with good scissors and be sure to clean the mounting surfaces with isopropyl alcohol before mounting the tape to them.
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Re: 2014 Durango towing

I am at a total loss for mounting this brake controller. I'd rather not give up the cubby area by the 12V plug under the center stack. I was hoping to mount it to the curved area below and to the right of the steering wheel. However, the curve and angle of that area would put the brake controller at an angle well outside of the mounting limits. I fabricated a wood shim to plug that area and provide a level mounting spot but it looked horrible and was not nearly as secure as I would like.

Ideally, I would use 2 different length machine screws to mount the bracket to level it out... but I can't figure out how to get that panel off. There is a little vented area there and I don't know the purpose of that. I can't tell if there is anything behind this panel. I certainly don't want to blindly screw into it and I think machine screws would be more effective anyway. I looked at the Jeep panel removal guide but I didn't see a similar panel in there.

I may end up taking it to the dealer and asking them if they can remove the panel. This is turning out to be far more troublesome than I expected... and I need a solution very soon.

Just throwing this out there for any ideas. Attached is a pic of the area I'd like to mount this. It's a poor cell phone quality pic but I think there's enough detail to see what I'm talking about. I would like to mount it below the shiny trim panel and just barely right of that mysterious vent thing.

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Re: 2014 Durango towing

The glossy curved trim piece pops out, use a thin plastic tool to pry it out. I removed mine to wrap it if that's the piece you're talking about. The little vent is mostly likely for a temp sensor for the climate control. I still suggest the 20lb double sided tape I mentioned, you'd be surprised how strong it is if you clean the mounting surfaces with alcohol. Even if you get part of the tape touching both surfaces it should work. It's removable with a bit of effort so it might be worth a shot before you start drilling holes.
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The glossy curved trim piece pops out, use a thin plastic tool to pry it out. I removed mine to wrap it if that's the piece you're talking about. The little vent is mostly likely for a temp sensor for the climate control. I still suggest the 20lb double sided tape I mentioned, you'd be surprised how strong it is if you clean the mounting surfaces with alcohol. Even if you get part of the tape touching both surfaces it should work. It's removable with a bit of effort so it might be worth a shot before you start drilling holes.
Thanks. I did find that tape but haven't used it yet. Due to the size of the controller, and it's requirement to be level, only a fraction would actually touch the controller and the trim in that spot. The curve of that area ruins it for easy velcro or tape based mounting methods. I was hoping to remove the panel below the shiny piece... the piece you're covering. I'd like to attach it to the lower panel with the vent. It looks like that panel wraps around underneath the center stack. The left side of the steering wheel would be perfect - it's nice and flat while staying clear of the knee airbag.... but I can't see it well there or use the manual brake lever effectively over there.

I guess as a last resort, I could mount it above the 12V in that cubby under the center stack, while trying to find a better solution for getting it where I would ideally like it.
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Re: 2014 Durango towing

Unfortunately, I haven't spent much time behind the wheel, so I don't have much to offer here.

I think you said the additional wire harness was to short to do a dash top mounting. I wonder if you might be able to obtain a longer pigtail/harness that might open up the options some.

I tend to agree that I wouldn't want to put it above that 12v outlet either.

I think you said you had a P2? I wonder if a P3 might lend itself to the left side mounting option since the manual override is on the bottom of the controller.

Ugh, I see the P2 is on the bottom too...
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Unfortunately, I haven't spent much time behind the wheel, so I don't have much to offer here.

I think you said the additional wire harness was to short to do a dash top mounting. I wonder if you might be able to obtain a longer pigtail/harness that might open up the options some.

I tend to agree that I wouldn't want to put it above that 12v outlet either.

I think you said you had a P2? I wonder if a P3 might lend itself to the left side mounting option since the manual override is on the bottom of the controller.

Ugh, I see the P2 is on the bottom too...
Thanks David. I'm just brainstorming/fishing for ideas. I just sent the P2 back today. For an extra $20, I'm going with the P3. It's so much easier to use and configure.

I'll have to check when I get home but my current thought is to bend the mounting bracket that came with the P3. I may have to drill a new skewed mounting hole in the bracket for the P3 but it *could* work.
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Re: 2014 Durango towing

I have the Teconsha P3 brake controller installed. I was limited in mounting locations because I didn't want it on the left of the steering wheel where I couldn't see it well and would likely hit it getting in and out. I also didn't want it in the media cubby by the gear selector dial because I want to make use of that space. I was left with only spot and it was a challenge. If you sit with your right knee extremely close to the curved trip piece on the right... this location is not for you unless you move your seat back.

This install will take some time but to me, it was worth it. I did drill 2 holes in the plastic but I like the piece of mind of knowing it is solidly attached. I tow a snowmobile trailer, often on slick snow covered or icy roads so I wanted an absolutely dependable solution. The way I did it, it's not quickly removable. I'll detail the steps I took but I'll start with the end result:
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Step 1: Parts used
  • Cordless drill
  • 3 drill bits... increasing in size to 9/64.
  • 2" plastic putty knife (it was all I had handy - 1" recommended) or trim removal tools
  • Flashlight (more often than not, held in my mouth because I don't have 3 hands) A larger shop light may be easier.
  • (2) each #8 x 3/8" hex head cap screw, #8 washer, #8 lock washer, and (1) 3/32 hex wrench
  • 8mm box wrench
  • Velcro
  • (2) each #6 x 3/4 machine hex head cap screws, #6 washer, #6 lock washer, #6 nut with nylon insert, #6 wing nut
  • Curved forceps or curved needle nose pliers for holding small pieces
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Step 2
Since the P3 comes with a flat metal mounting bracket... and I put this in a curved location, I had to bend the bracket. I used a piece of 4" PVC pipe to help bend it against but anything round will do. You need to bend the right side of the bracket.

Hold the bracket in the desired Durango location until it looks like a decent fit.

I went for the spot just underneath the curved glossy trim. There is a little vent area there and it is connected to some kind of sensor.

I then mounted the P3 in the bracket to test for fit in the desired position. I used the long slot on the left side of the bracket and the top most hole on the right. That's necessary due to the curved location. Be careful not to strip the holes. This is just temporary to test before going any further. You may need to reshape the bracket a little more. If satisfied, remove the P3.
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Step 3 Remove glossy trim
Use your PLASTIC putty knife or trim removal tools to remove the curved glossy trim piece. Gently slip the putty knife behind the trim and pry. This piece is connected in 4 spots. It comes off fairly easily.
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