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Cold Air Intake on 2014 Durango

First, sorry if I got anyone's hopes up with my title, but I am planning to put one on my 2014 Citadel Hemi when it comes in. Two questions:

1. Any reason one shouldn't fit a 2014 if it fit a 2013? Any configuration change under the hood that I should know about?

2. Any reason not to put this on right when I get the Durango? Normally, I haven't made modification to cars in the first 10,000 miles or so, but really for no specific reason. Just curious if anyone has a reason not to.

As for the intake itself, leaning toward the AFE Magnum Force, but still considering a K&N 77 series as well.
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Re: Cold Air Intake on 2014 Durango

It should fit without issue.. I'm leaning toward a Legmarker CAI.
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Re: Cold Air Intake on 2014 Durango

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Re: Cold Air Intake on 2014 Durango

Thanks guys, and thanks for adding legmaker to my list.

I've always waited a 6 months to a year for engine mods, but not for any particular reason. Any reason not to put an intake on right when I get it?
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Re: Cold Air Intake on 2014 Durango

nope not really...only thing about the open element short rams is the engine heat they draw in. I would look for an intake with a closed element compartment....ie Volant.
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Re: Cold Air Intake on 2014 Durango

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nope not really...only thing about the open element short rams is the engine heat they draw in. I would look for an intake with a closed element compartment....ie Volant.
Oh, definitely. The AFE and K&N both have closed compartments that seal against the hood, with the AFE being a good bit thicker steel. I looked into Volant too.
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Re: Cold Air Intake on 2014 Durango

I now see what you mean by closed compartment. The AFE and K&N simply weatherstrip seal to the hood, but Volant actually has a top. I think I've tossed out the K&N, leaving the Volant and the AFE. I wish I could find numbers for the Volant, but I may be missing them.

Scottina, sounds like you'd vote for the Volant? Anyone else?
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Re: Cold Air Intake on 2014 Durango

Volant makes some really nice CAI's.....that would be my choice IMHO
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I have a 2013 GC and installed the Volant. I didnt like the idea of using my hood as the top for the filter box. It seems to work fine. I noticed a little bit of performance...mostly with WOT at around 2K-3K RPM. I'm hoping the CAI will combine with the ported Throttle Body I'm installing this week and a new tune from HemiFever to give me a nice little kick in the tail.
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Re: Cold Air Intake on 2014 Durango

Out of curiosity I took a look at Volant and there is nothing for the 3.6 V-6.

Is a CAI even worth it for that motor, and does anyone make one similar to the Volant. Not sure I like the idea of the box sealed against only the hood either.
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Re: Cold Air Intake on 2014 Durango

One thing bugs me reading these threads is the name CAI (Cold Air Intake). The Durango already has cold air intake as it draws outside air thru the grill so their performance gain doesn't come from there. Its advantage is supposedly a shorter intake arm/tubing to reduce flow restriction. However, the flow restriction is not always in the intake tubing, in my Hondas it was the throttle body so a short intake arm really did nothing unless the throttle body was opened up. There's alot of engineering in the stock tube with resonators to reduce sound and often to create a Helmholtz resonance dealing with pressure waves to improve flow. Looking into these over the years I've found the performance increase is marginal, usually only detectable on a dyno and at WOT applications higher up the HP curve. Don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, just telling what I know and learned over the years. It's still fun to try them out, I've done it enough myself. One time I even wrapped the entire intake tubing with reflective insulation to keep it from getting heat soaked.
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One thing bugs me reading these threads is the name CAI (Cold Air Intake). The Durango already has cold air intake as it draws outside air thru the grill so their performance gain doesn't come from there. Its advantage is supposedly a shorter intake arm/tubing to reduce flow restriction. However, the flow restriction is not always in the intake tubing, in my Hondas it was the throttle body so a short intake arm really did nothing unless the throttle body was opened up. There's alot of engineering in the stock tube with resonators to reduce sound and often to create a Helmholtz resonance dealing with pressure waves to improve flow. Looking into these over the years I've found the performance increase is marginal, usually only detectable on a dyno and at WOT applications higher up the HP curve. Don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, just telling what I know and learned over the years. It's still fun to try them out.
Agreed...but if used with a ported TB, the increase in performance can be significant. I think the main gain comes from eliminating the labyrinth inside of the stock air tube, the purpose of which is to slow the airflow, thereby eliminating noise. It is that slowing down of the airflow that steals power. Interestingly, it is the sound that attracts many guys to CAI systems.
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