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Durango Lives On (Refresh Coming for '17)

FIAT released all their 5-year plans today.

Durango confirmed to get refreshed in late '16 and live alongside the Jeep Grand Wagoneer.

Sorry to all you who insisted the JGW would be built at Jefferson North Assembly and no way did that plant have the capacity to build both it and the Durango.


Odd though that '17 is being dubbed a mid-cycle refresh for the Durango. I thought '14 was a mid-cycle refresh.
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FIAT released all their 5-year plans today.

Durango confirmed to get refreshed in late '16 and live alongside the Jeep Grand Wagoneer.
Alleluia! Sounds like Sergio woke up and smelled the roses. Great to hear.

I've had my Durango for 6 months now, have been quite pleased with it, and have been shaking my head over its reported demise. It didn't make sense. To me, the Durango, with its "SUV on steroids" look, should be considered one of the major brand images for Dodge. I wonder what made them rethink keeping it. I attended the NYC Int'l Auto Show a week ago Sunday, where they had the 2014 Durango RT and Citadel versions on the floor, and both were getting a lot of attention from consumers. Can't wait to see what the January 2017 refresh will look like. Yeah Dodge (or Fiat)!!
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FIAT released all their 5-year plans today.

Durango confirmed to get refreshed in late '16 and live alongside the Jeep Grand Wagoneer.
For anyone wishing to peruse all the details, here's a great link:

Fiat Chrysler 5-year plan -- Automotive News

With respect to 3 row crossovers (and the Jeep Grand Cherokee), here are the current plans:

1) Dodge Durango to get a "refresh" Jan 2017. I do agree that it seems odd to have a second "refresh" of the same platform, but then again the platform is generally universally praised as far as driving dynamics goes. So a refresh to upgrade interior / electronics / tweak styling, possibly even drivetrain tweaks doesn't seem far fetched.

2) Dodge Journey (you know, the "other" dodge crossover) will get a new model mid 2016.

3) Chrysler: In 2017 Chrysler will have a full size SUV, including a plug-in hybrid variant.

4) Chrysler: In 2018 Chrysler will have a mid-size SUV.

5) Jeep: Grand Cherokee slated for a refresh late 2015, early 2016 (This is about a year ahead of the Durango)

6) Jeep: Grand Wagoneer to debut 2018.

Of course, plans change.

If these plans come to fruition, I'm assuming that the following CUVs will share the same platform:

Grand Cherokee
Durango
Chrysler Full Size

It's not clear to me though whether or not the Grand Wagoneer would share the same platform or be built on a completely new one.

Then there is the question of how Chrysler will position the Durango vs. the Chrysler full size. Marchionne isn't one to just slap on different sheet metal. Perhaps the Durango will just live on with something along the lines of the R/T (or even SRT), and Chrysler will have the lion share of trim levels?

I am also extremely pleased with my own Durango after 6 months and 12,000 miles. Just the other day my wife drove it to her chiropractor (her car was in the shop), and the Doctor commented on what a sharp looking vehicle it was as she pulled in. This comment was immediately followed up with the question......wait for it....."what is it?"

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For anyone wishing to peruse all the details, here's a great link:

Fiat Chrysler 5-year plan -- Automotive News

With respect to 3 row crossovers (and the Jeep Grand Cherokee), here are the current plans:
You forgot one critical point - the Grand Cherokee is all-new in 3Q 2017, just a few months after the Durango refresh. That worries me. Why wouldn't they make the Durango all-new alongside the GC? That suggests they're just extending the life of the Durango as long as possible on the current platform before axing it in 2020.......
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That suggests they're just extending the life of the Durango as long as possible on the current platform before axing it in 2020.......
I believe the intent is to drop the Durango shortly after the Wagoneer comes out.
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the Durango will move to a CUV platform to cover for the loss of the minivan for dodge
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the Durango will move to a CUV platform to cover for the loss of the minivan for dodge
Personally, I think they should do the large CUV with the Chrysler and keep the performance oriented rwd with the dodge.

Or do they just expect the dodge folk to move to jeep? And pay the higher price for something that's trail rated, when they really just want something that'll tow.

I know the journey sells really well, but would a bigger one? Maybe, I still don't know why people buy the lambda triplets (mini vans without the sliding doors).
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isnt the jounney getting the srt treatment? would that classify as a new model
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the Durango will move to a CUV platform to cover for the loss of the minivan for dodge
That doesn't make sense. 1) the Durango refresh comes several quarters after the introduction of the all-new Town & Country (assuming the Grand Caravan goes away at that time) meaning a several-year lag during which they don't have a large CUV, 2) the 5-year plan makes no mention of a large CUV, 3) why not continue the "Grand Caravan" name with the large CUV if they were going to do it and 4) a CUV doesn't exactly fit in with the "performance" brand image. The Journey is already there so it makes sense to keep it, but introduce a whole new large CUV?

What makes most sense to me is that they simply haven't decided what to do with the Durango in 2020 yet. Maybe it will join the GC and GW on their new platform.
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I believe the intent is to drop the Durango shortly after the Wagoneer comes out.
That was the old school thinking. They've clearly said the Wagoneer will be a Land Rover fighter. So they'd drop the Durango for a vehicle that competes in a completely different class? Then they'd have no mainstream 3-row large SUV. Unless they make an extended wheelbase Grand Cherokee which the plan makes no mention of.
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I know the journey sells really well, but would a bigger one? Maybe, I still don't know why people buy the lambda triplets (mini vans without the sliding doors).
You don't? They have essentially all the room of a Tahoe at significantly lower cost and greater fuel economy. Even the Car & Driver (or Motor Trend?) review of the new Tahoe said the only reason to buy a Tahoe over a Traverse is if you really need to tow that couple extra thousand pounds.
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That was the old school thinking. They've clearly said the Wagoneer will be a Land Rover fighter. So they'd drop the Durango for a vehicle that competes in a completely different class? Then they'd have no mainstream 3-row large SUV. Unless they make an extended wheelbase Grand Cherokee which the plan makes no mention of.
Maybe you don't know Milous track record here... He doesn't post what he is thinking unless he says "thinking". He posts very good provable facts from sources within the ranks.

I would take Milous "theory" over most publication facts any day.

But hey if you think he is wrong, you are welcome to argue that with anyone here.
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