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Old 10-11-2014, 03:59 PM
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Happy Birthday Daddy Wagon...NO MORE ECO!

So it's been just short of a year of 23,000 extremely satisfactory miles with the '14 Durango, so I figured it was time for a gift.

I purchased and installed the Pac Audio BCI-CH41 Interface kit. This is similar to the popular Lock-Pick devices and adds "functionality" to your video / electronics systems.

I was looking for two features:
1) Allow use of features that are normally locked out when in motion.
2) Allow me to not have to turn off ECO mode every time I get in the vehicle.

I have the rear-entertainment system and on the long trips to Wisconsin there are times when my wife would like to watch the same movie the kids are viewing in the back seat. The "navigation" unlock feature (which allows you to do things like type addresses when in motion) also allows the video to play on the front screen while in motion.

If you turn on the ECO Memory feature of the device, it "remembers" the state of the ECO button when you turn the vehicle off, and sets it back when you turn it back on. (So if ECO is off when you turn the vehicle off, it remains off when you turn it back on.)

This device is the only one I know of that "solves" the ECO button annoyance that many of us has voiced. It's pricey ($300), but its cheaper than the Lock Pick that lacks ECO button memory.

I installed it myself, based the following video that shows lock-pick installation on a '14 Durango. I used a trim tool kit to "pop out" the center console bezel, then 4 screws to remove the screen so you can get at the harness.

Only one glitch with the installation.

The installation instructions for the Pac Audio device explicitly says to have the engine on and running when disconnecting the harness, plugging in the Pac Audio device and reconnecting the harness. While the installation was successful, it also caused the check-engine light to come on. (A code for the electronics bus.) If you have your own scan tool you can clear it. You can also take it to your local parts store and give the guy $5 and he'll clear it.

I'm able to report that it works just as advertised! I can turn on the defeat nav feature and view video on the front screen while in motion, and with the ECO mode memory feature turned on, I'll probably never have to touch the ECO button again.

Happy Birthday, Daddy Wagon!
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Re: Happy Birthday Daddy Wagon...NO MORE ECO!

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how do you interact with that one? The touch screen? The steering wheel buttons? The back button? Something else?
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cool beans-

how do you interact with that one? The touch screen? The steering wheel buttons? The back button? Something else?
Here are the instructions, though they aren't terribly clear. Here's how it works...

1) In order to see the menu of the device you need to set the Multifunction Display (MFD) of your vehicle to the "music" screen. The MFD is the screen in your gauge cluster. (The one you change to view vehicle info, speedometer, trip computer, etc.) One of the screens is to display "music" information (the radio station, etc.) This is the screen you need to switch to.

2) Once on the music screen, press and hold the "voice recognition" (VR) button on the steering wheel for about 8 seconds. on the MFD you'll see the text where the music information is normally seen change to "NU Menu".

3) Now you can "scroll" through the menu settings with the right steering wheel buttons: up, down, and middle (select). (These are the steering wheel buttons that normally control radio volume and source select.) Scroll up and down through the settings using the volume buttons, and press the middle button to change the setting. The setting information displays on the MFD screen.

You do the above just to "set-up" your device. So for me, I "enabled" Nav Unlock and turned on ECO memory. Enabling Nav Unlock does not actually "turn on / defeat" motion lock...it only enables you to defeat it at your command.

I have not had to go back into the Nu Menu again. Though when I take the vehicle in for service, I will likely go back in to turn off ECO memory and disable nav-unlock.

Now with nav-unlock enabled whenever I want to defeat the nav lock, I do the following:

1) Switch to the music screen on the MFD.
2) Hold the right steering wheel (middle) button for 4 seconds until the message "Confirm Safe Passenger Use" starts scrolling on the MFD.
3) After the message stops scrolling, press the right steering wheel button again within 5 seconds. You'll see "Acknowledged" .

Nav-lock is now defeated until the vehicle power is cycled off.

The other feature I can use is to view the factory rear camera. Normally, you only see this when you put the vehicle in reverse. However, if you press and hold the LEFT steering wheel (middle) button for 4 seconds, your UConnect display will switch to the rear camera view. Even if you are in park or drive...as long as you are going less than 5 mph. (Rear camera disables above 5 MPH.)

You can add additional camera or A/V sources to this device (similar to Lock-Pick), but I have not done so. (I have all the A/V sources I need with the factory entertainment system.)

Just a side comment: From what I have read, you won't be able to get any device that you can interact with via the uconnect touch-screen. Starting with the '14 uconnect vehicles, the touch-screens no longer send their input signals "outside" of the screen itself. In '13 and previous model years these device makers could "intercept" the touch input signals and therefore make use of the touch screen, but now they must use physical buttons for device input. I think lock-pick uses the center console screen to "display" the information, but uses the select knob for input.
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Re: Happy Birthday Daddy Wagon...NO MORE ECO!

Yep, I think we hit a year with our Durango today.

We're about half of your mileage though - no long trips yet.
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Re: Happy Birthday Daddy Wagon...NO MORE ECO!

Interesting. I didn't know this device existed. It would be nice to unlock to nav in motion, but I don't think it would be worth $300 for us. We wouldn't really use/care about any other feature. It would be also scary to plug everything in while the engine is running. I think PAC needs to go back to the drawing board for this issue -- figure how to clear the MIL.
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Interesting. I didn't know this device existed. It would be nice to unlock to nav in motion, but I don't think it would be worth $300 for us. We wouldn't really use/care about any other feature. It would be also scary to plug everything in while the engine is running. I think PAC needs to go back to the drawing board for this issue -- figure how to clear the MIL.
if you just want the "nav fix" then check out this thread:
new lockpick for the 8,4 uconnect, 99% software

there's a Software fix you can get- you just plug in a USB stick and update your radio. You plug in another usb stick and you can return to factory software. If you sign up for an account with your jeepgarage info then the price is like $150 or something like that.

If you want comparable to the above system with the ability to add other cameras/video sources then they include a harness and camera for something like $270

(sorry i'm doign pricing by memory and also the prices are in Euros)
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