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Travel Trailer towing w/ a 2014 Citadel

Buying our first travel trailer, and curious if anyone else pulling one with their D. If so, what length/weight, and how's it pulling?

I have a 2014 Citadel with the HEMI and factory tow package. I live in the Upstate of SC so it will be far from all flat towing with the Blue Ridge and Smokeys not too far away.

I had been primarily looking at 24' or less, but absolutely loved this one I found today. Too much for the Durango?

826VFK - V-Cross Vibe 800 Series Travel Trailers

Dry Hitch Weight 800 lbs. (363 kg)
Unloaded Vehicle Weight 5,434 lbs. (2,465 kg)
GVWR 7,800 lbs. (3,538 kg)
Cargo Carrying Capacity 2,366 lbs. (1,073 kg)
Exterior Length 28' 6" (8.7 m)
Exterior Height 10' 8" (3.3 m)
Exterior Width 96" (2.4 m)

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Re: Travel Trailer towing w/ a 2014 Citadel

Yes, its to much for the Durango.

You want to look for something with a GVWR under the maximum towing capacity of the D.

You must subtract from the Durango's cargo (not towing capacity) your dry hitch weight of 800 lbs. What does that leave? The dry weights include no cargo/personal items in the trailer.

There are a ton of good "towing guidelines" sites on the web. Bottom line don't believe a WORD of what the RV dealer tells you you can tow.

This site is a little older, but a good starting point
Living the RV Life: How to Calculate your REAL Towing Capacity and explains a lot of terms, etc.

I had a 25" travel trailer that weight a little over 4400 lbs empty and we towed that with a Yukon XL.

For our Durango we're down sizing to a trailer that weights about 2500 lbs unloaded (granted we have the V-6, so lower overall towing capacity).

Check out rv.net/forum.
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Re: Travel Trailer towing w/ a 2014 Citadel

Thanks for the reply. After doing some further research, I had come to the same conclusion. I actually just went to look at a trailer that I believe is more in line with what I want, and what the Durango can safely handle, but let me know if you still disagree.

Coachmen Freedom Express 230bh

Length (ft-in / m): 26' 4'' / 8
GVWR 6904 lbs
Base Weight (lbs / kg): 3795 / 1721.4
Carrying Capacity (lbs / kg): 3109 / 1410.2
Hitch Weight (lbs / kg): 404 / 183.3
Number Of Axles: 2
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Re: Travel Trailer towing w/ a 2014 Citadel

It is better, but you're looking at a trailer that loaded to capacity is very close to the D tow capacity. It'll do it, but it won't always be the most pleasant experience.

I think you have to pack carefully (I don't see how anyone can put 3000lbs of stuff in a trailer), and invest in a good weight distribution/sway control hitching system (e.g. Equalizer)

By comparison the trailer I towed with my Yukon XL (which had a 7800lb capacity) weigh about 5500 lbs loaded. We never had an issue on hills/etc on the highway with that, and averaged about 9-10 mpg towing.

Just remember its not all about the GVWR of the trailer itself. There are a lot of factors that play into it. There used to be a rule of thumb even about the length of the trailer and the tow vehicles wheelbase. I think that's less true now with the more sophisticated hitching systems.

Also, just because you see someone towing a larger trailer on the road with a similar vehicle doesn't make it okay.

See if the dealer will arrange for you to test tow the trailer empty and see how it feels.
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Re: Travel Trailer towing w/ a 2014 Citadel

By way of example, here's what we're looking at for our next trailer. We have the V6, so 6200 lbs of tow capacity

r-pod Travel Trailer by Forest River

GVWR on that is about 3800lbs.

Granted, our kids are older, so we don't need space to sleep the entire family, but I don't think I would go much heavier with our D. Maybe 4500lbs GVWR on the trailer.
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Re: Travel Trailer towing w/ a 2014 Citadel

My brain can't even come up with 3,000 lbs of anything I would add to it!

Couldn't pass it up for $9,500 out the door. Signing the papers tomorrow.
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Re: Travel Trailer towing w/ a 2014 Citadel

Congrats! Yeah, that price is definitely to good to pass up.

Let us know how it tows :-)
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Re: Travel Trailer towing w/ a 2014 Citadel

Finally picked it up this week, and the Durango handled it like a champ. Got the equalizer hitch, but didn't pull it with the sway bars on the 20 mile trip home. The D had plenty of power on the highway, including hills, but a trip to the mountains will be the real test.

@DaveWG, do you have towing mirrors on your Durango? Curious what direction you went for that.
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Finally picked it up this week, and the Durango handled it like a champ. Got the equalizer hitch, but didn't pull it with the sway bars on the 20 mile trip home. The D had plenty of power on the highway, including hills, but a trip to the mountains will be the real test.

@DaveWG, do you have towing mirrors on your Durango? Curious what direction you went for that.
We haven't towed a camper with the Durango yet, but for our Yukon we removable towing mirrors from CIPA.

Towing | CIPA USA

I definitely recommend you use something. It'll make changing lanes safer, and backing up easier. Try and get a custom (specific to make/model) mirror instead of one of the universal ones. The custom mirrors work more as an extension of the main mirror and will have less shake/wobble. If you're anal about the paint on the mirrors, I'd recommend a protective film before you use the mirrors.

Our new trailer is actually narrow enough that we're hoping not to need them.

Enjoy the trailer!
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Re: Travel Trailer towing w/ a 2014 Citadel

That's why I asked. I can't seem to find any ones custom fit to the Durango, and I've checked with CIPA. I'll have to figure something out.
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Re: Travel Trailer towing w/ a 2014 Citadel

Yeah, I noticed that.

Totally talking out my @ss here, but do the WK2 Grand Cherokees have the same mirrors as the Durango? If so, a mirror for the Jeep should fit.
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Yeah, I noticed that.

Totally talking out my @ss here, but do the WK2 Grand Cherokees have the same mirrors as the Durango? If so, a mirror for the Jeep should fit.
Unfortunately CIPA only makes mirrors for the 1993-1995 Grand Cherokee and only up to a 2003 Durango.

I've also looked at Longview and K Source with no luck for recent model Durangos or Grand Cherokees.
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