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Anyone know what the deal is with this... My gascap is on fine. ImageUploadedByJeepGarage1443975501.088772.jpg


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Re: Check gascap warning

the cap does go bad now and then
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Re: Check gascap warning

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Anyone know what the deal is with this... My gascap is on fine. Attachment 61069


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There are 2 CO2 sensors in your Jeep someplace. If one of them goes bad it could trigger that kind of alert.
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Re: Check gascap warning

Thanks guys. But it actually went away after I restarted the car. Fingers crossed it doesn't come back


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Thanks guys. But it actually went away after I restarted the car. Fingers crossed it doesn't come back


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I hope it is fixed but if it is a CO2 sensor the alert will come and go until the sensor completely goes. Why not go to an auto parts store, borrow a scanner, and see if you can pull a code to be sure?
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I hope it is fixed but if it is a CO2 sensor the alert will come and go until the sensor completely goes. Why not go to an auto parts store, borrow a scanner, and see if you can pull a code to be sure?

I'll definitely keep an eye on it. If i get it again that'll be what i do. Thanks


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Re: Check gascap warning

I believe the check gas cap message is triggered by the EVAP system.

If you do the keydance, or get the code pulled, it will tell you the size of the leak as well (eg., medium, large). If it was anything more than a small leak, I don't think the check gas cap message is triggered.

As mentioned above, wait until it returns. Sometimes just taking off the cap and putting it back on solves the problem.

If it returns, try a new gas cap.

If it returns again, it's time to start checking the condition of the hoses leading to the EVAP canister in the front. Could also be an actual leak in the gas tank or in the canister.

I don't think the system has CO2 monitors. Rather, it is checking the state of the vacuum within the system. It is actually a pretty clever little bit of engineering (From the service manual):


The Natural Vacuum Leak Detection (NVLD) system is the next generation evaporative leak detection system that will first be used on vehicles equipped with the Next Generation Controller (NGC). This new system replaces the leak detection pump as the method of evaporative system leak detection. This is to detect a leak equivalent to a 0.0209 (0.5 mm) hole. This system has the capability to detect holes of this size very dependably. The basic leak detection theory employed with NVLD is the 9Gas Law9. This is to say that the pressure in a sealed vessel will change if the temperature of the gas in the vessel changes. The vessel will only see this effect if it is indeed sealed. Even small leaks will allow the pressure in the vessel to come to equilibrium with the ambient pressure.
In addition to the detection of very small leaks, this system has the capability of detecting medium as well as large evaporative system leaks.
A vent valve seals the canister vent during engine off conditions. If the vapor system has a leak of less than the failure threshold, the evaporative system will be pulled into a vacuum, either due to the cool down from operating temperature or diurnal ambient temperature cycling. The diurnal effect is considered one of the primary contributors to the leak determination by this diagnostic. When the vacuum in the system exceeds about 19 H2O (0.25 KPA), a vacuum switch closes. The switch closure sends a signal to the NGC. The NGC, via appropriate logic strategies,
utilizes the switch signal, or lack thereof, to make a determination of whether a leak is present. The NVLD device is designed with a normally open vacuum switch, a normally closed solenoid, and a seal, which
is actuated by both the solenoid and a diaphragm. The NVLD is located on the atmospheric vent side of the canister. The NVLD assembly may be mounted on top of the canister outlet, or in-line between the canister and atmospheric vent filter. The normally open vacuum switch will close with about 19 H2O (0.25 KPA) vacuum in the evaporative system. The diaphragm actuates the switch. This is above the opening point of the fuel inlet check valve in the fill tube so cap off leaks can be detected. Submerged fill systems must have recirculation lines that do not have the in-line normally closed check valve that protects the system from failed nozzle liquid ingestion, in order to detect cap off conditions.
The normally closed valve in the NVLD is intended to maintain the seal on the evaporative system during the engine off condition. If vacuum in the evaporative system exceeds 39 to 69 H2O (0.75 to 1.5 KPA), the valve will be pulled off the seat, opening the seal. This will protect the system from excessive vacuum as well as allowing sufficient purge flow in the event that the solenoid was to become inoperative. The solenoid actuates the valve to unseal the canister vent while the engine is running. It also will be used to close the vent during the medium and large leak tests and during the purge flow check. This solenoid requires an initial 1.5 amps of current to pull the valve open, but after 100 mili-seconds, will be duty cycled down to an average of about 150 mA for the remainder of the drive cycle. Another feature in the device is a diaphragm that will open the seal in the NVLD with pressure in the evaporative system. The device will 9blow off9 at about 0.59 H2O (0.12 KPA) pressure to permit the venting of vapors during refueling. An added benefit to this is that it will also allow the tank to 'breathe' during increasing temperatures, thus limiting the pressure in the tank to this low level. This is beneficial because the induced vacuum during a subsequent declining temperature will achieve the switch closed (pass threshold) sooner than if the tank had to decay
from a built up pressure.
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Re: Check gascap warning

Mine was doing this intermittently - bought a new cap from Amazon and haven't seen it since.
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