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Questions And Concerns About JGC

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So I've driven nothing about "imports" all my life. Had an Accord, then another Accord. Then a Tacoma. Then another Tacoma.

It's a 2007 Tacoma 4x4 DoubleCab. Nothing is wrong with it. I just have that itch for something new and well, different. I no longer have a use for a truck at the moment. I may regret getting rid of it, if I do.

I do tow a boat though. Package weight is ~2100lbs. Typically twice a week during spring, summer, and fall. Round trip is ~60miles. I will go camping once or twice a year. Sometimes, on the other side of the Cascades, so it's about ~400miles round trip.

But typically, I just use my vehicle to go from point A to B. Going to work and back. ~4 miles round trip. Put about 9K miles a year. I get crappy MPG(12-13MPG) because of my short trips, but the tank will last me 3 weeks , if all I'm doing is going to work.

If I go all highway using cruise control, I've averaged out 20.xxx MPG. If I tow, with it being 98% highway, I've gotten 15 MPG, which isn't that bad I guess for towing.


Here's what I want:

Tow package
HID(currently have retros on my Taco)
4x4
Would like to have the LSD.

I don't want:
Black exterior. Had 2 black vehicles, that's enough for me.
Green exterior.
Tan interior.
That air lifting suspension. Seems like just more things to break.


I personally don't have a lot of confidence in the quality of "American" vehicles. Sure it may be based on ignorance and stigmata. But I went down to the local Jeep dealer and man, the Jeeps look very nice in person. Looked at the Limited and Overland. Test drove the 3.6 and Hemi briefly. The wife loved the Limited. When I turned down the sale from salesman, because I was just looking, the wife wanted to trade her car in for it, LOL. Told her she could have a new car and be divorced or keep her car for a little longer, 09 Civic SI.

Anyways, the test drive was short. I really want to test it out for a little bit longer to see if I could decide on the V6 or V8. Yes, the V8 has plenty of power, but I'm trying to see if the V6 is sufficient for my needs. If the dealer had more space, I would pull up my boat in there and tow it around....


Well that's my background, and wow that's a wall of text.

Here's my main concerns and questions.

1. Reliability of JGC? Read plenty of issues about the current models. I'm going to wait for a '15 model, unless I find a heavily discounted late '14 model..... It seems to be mainly electronic gremlins and some issues with the tranny?

2. Packages and prices. I HATE how Jeep does their packages, but I've never bought a brand new vehicle before, so maybe I'm just not accustom to the process. Would be nice to get that new car smell. I would love the HID headlights and LSD, but I don't want to spend $6700 for that. My truck does have an LSD and it's come in handy a couple of times in the rain.

3. Confusion on the 4x4 configuration. Is the JGC full-time 4x4? Or is it selectable like my Tacoma. Also on my Tacoma, I'm supposedly to only activate the 4x4 on loose road conditions. Like in snow or sand or whatever. Otherwise, you can bind your drivetrain and cause damage.
I read a few posts and it seems like people are driving their 4x4 system like an AWD system around quick corners and such.


4. Is the V6 plenty for my needs? I don't really go "Off-roading". Maybe
plow through the snow. Drive on the beach/sand. Go up to the mountains and have to drive through gravel roads.


5. What is this affiliate program price I see mention here. Is it some special and cheapest price possible to get?

6. The warranty and contract service. It's the same thing right? It seems like the going price is $2200 for this and for peace of mind, I think it will be a great investment.
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Old 09-21-2013, 07:28 AM
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While I have had foreign cars since the 1970's, I have also had American fleets from 1987 to 2011. I have seen the amazing improvement in American vehicles to the point that I felt 100% confident in buying American when I gave back my fleet car at my retirement.
The AWD/4WD system in SUV's is different than in trucks. Check out the Official Jeep website for excellent discussions on the systems and electronic spin control.
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Old 09-21-2013, 08:37 AM
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Re: Questions And Concerns About JGC

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Howdy ya'll.


So I've driven nothing about "imports" all my life. Had an Accord, then another Accord. Then a Tacoma. Then another Tacoma.

It's a 2007 Tacoma 4x4 DoubleCab. Nothing is wrong with it. I just have that itch for something new and well, different. I no longer have a use for a truck at the moment. I may regret getting rid of it, if I do.

I do tow a boat though. Package weight is ~2100lbs. Typically twice a week during spring, summer, and fall. Round trip is ~60miles. I will go camping once or twice a year. Sometimes, on the other side of the Cascades, so it's about ~400miles round trip.

But typically, I just use my vehicle to go from point A to B. Going to work and back. ~4 miles round trip. Put about 9K miles a year. I get crappy MPG(12-13MPG) because of my short trips, but the tank will last me 3 weeks , if all I'm doing is going to work.

If I go all highway using cruise control, I've averaged out 20.xxx MPG. If I tow, with it being 98% highway, I've gotten 15 MPG, which isn't that bad I guess for towing.


Here's what I want:

Tow package
HID(currently have retros on my Taco)
4x4
Would like to have the LSD.

I don't want:
Black exterior. Had 2 black vehicles, that's enough for me.
Green exterior.
Tan interior.
That air lifting suspension. Seems like just more things to break.


I personally don't have a lot of confidence in the quality of "American" vehicles. Sure it may be based on ignorance and stigmata. But I went down to the local Jeep dealer and man, the Jeeps look very nice in person. Looked at the Limited and Overland. Test drove the 3.6 and Hemi briefly. The wife loved the Limited. When I turned down the sale from salesman, because I was just looking, the wife wanted to trade her car in for it, LOL. Told her she could have a new car and be divorced or keep her car for a little longer, 09 Civic SI.

Anyways, the test drive was short. I really want to test it out for a little bit longer to see if I could decide on the V6 or V8. Yes, the V8 has plenty of power, but I'm trying to see if the V6 is sufficient for my needs. If the dealer had more space, I would pull up my boat in there and tow it around....


Well that's my background, and wow that's a wall of text.

Here's my main concerns and questions.

1. Reliability of JGC? Read plenty of issues about the current models. I'm going to wait for a '15 model, unless I find a heavily discounted late '14 model..... It seems to be mainly electronic gremlins and some issues with the tranny?

2. Packages and prices. I HATE how Jeep does their packages, but I've never bought a brand new vehicle before, so maybe I'm just not accustom to the process. Would be nice to get that new car smell. I would love the HID headlights and LSD, but I don't want to spend $6700 for that. My truck does have an LSD and it's come in handy a couple of times in the rain.

3. Confusion on the 4x4 configuration. Is the JGC full-time 4x4? Or is it selectable like my Tacoma. Also on my Tacoma, I'm supposedly to only activate the 4x4 on loose road conditions. Like in snow or sand or whatever. Otherwise, you can bind your drivetrain and cause damage.
I read a few posts and it seems like people are driving their 4x4 system like an AWD system around quick corners and such.


4. Is the V6 plenty for my needs? I don't really go "Off-roading". Maybe
plow through the snow. Drive on the beach/sand. Go up to the mountains and have to drive through gravel roads.


5. What is this affiliate program price I see mention here. Is it some special and cheapest price possible to get?

6. The warranty and contract service. It's the same thing right? It seems like the going price is $2200 for this and for peace of mind, I think it will be a great investment.
1. The later Jeeps (anything built from beginning of August) has most of the bugs worked out. I have had 5 Jeeps (soon to be 6), and every one has been reliable.
2. HID and LSD - you have to decide what model and packages you want. Personally I am getting the Overland, but I like all the bells and whistles.
3. Not sure of the 4X4 in the Laredo, but in the limited and overland, for the most part you just leave it in auto and never need to touch it again. Great system. You can upgrade one more level, but that is for serious off roaders. (it is an awesome 4X4 system).
4. Sounds like for your purpose, the V6 should be enough. You might want to look at the 3.0L Ecodiesel, which should be releasing any day now. Will get up to 30 mpg, and tons of torque, when you tow or drive in the mountains, you will really notice the power.
5. Affiliate program will guarantee that you only pay 1% under invoice. Tread lightly dot com has one for a hundred bucks. There are a few others, but you will have to check the threads here to see which one you like. I personally believe in the tread lightly cause.
6. With all the electronics in this baby, I think it would be smart to get the extended warranty. You can get a better deal from other places than your dealer. I see a lot of people are buying the from Ziegler. Again, check around this site for great info on extended warranties.

Good luck in your purchase. Also, I can hook you up with a dealer that will give you 5.5% under invoice if you are interested. PM me and I will send you the info.
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Re: Questions And Concerns About JGC

I've had a Jk Rubicon for five years and not a single problem. My extended warranty actually ended up costing me 2-grand as I've never used it.

I have no issues with trading in my Rubicon for a GC Diesel. One nice thing with the delayed entry of the diesel is that any previous issues have had time to be worked out.

I was amazed at the electronics in the Summit GC I drove, so I will still be getting the 8/120K extended warranty. Good piece of mind.
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Re: Questions And Concerns About JGC

When you look at problem reports it's important to remember that people who don't have a problem don't have a reason to ask for help or complain to the world. Forums and consumer-submitted review sites are usually more like concentrated anecdotal evidence than hard data. It's easy to end up with a distorted view of a product's quality, and with almost anything you buy you run some risk of being unlucky.

I hate how Jeep does option packages too, but I think every car I've looked at in recent years has had a similar issue (why can't I buy a nice car without a sunroof?). I wouldn't worry too much about the ELSD because traction control will handle normal use. I think the tow package still comes with load-leveling suspension, so I don't know if that will be any more/less likely to cause trouble than the full air suspension setup.

Most part-time 4x4 systems lock front and rear axles so you shouldn't drive them on surfaces with good traction, and that's what you have in your Tacoma. I think all of the current-gen 4x4 Grand Cherokees use full-time systems that you can pretty much ignore.
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American car quality has greatly improved. My wife's 2007 Honda Accord had total transmission failure at just 42K miles (replaced under warranty) while the Z06 and CTS-V have been flawless.
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