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Old 09-28-2012, 11:08 AM
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Even the 2.5L 4 banger will beat a 3.7L WK
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Wait a couple of months until we're into the white stuff...then you might have a chance...
I will definitely have him
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:20 AM
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Re: Who would win?

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Not unless he has an AWD system
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:55 AM
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Re: Who would win?

Neither would win. A Jeep SRT would fly passed you as you guy raced.
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Re: Who would win?

Those 3.0L fusions have some pick up to them. The AWD Fusion is a joke from what I have experienced.

I actually have yet to see an JEEP SRT8 of any kind up close. Guess that is what you get in Ford country.
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^do you live in a hole haha just kidding
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Re: Who would win?

2 Major Ford plants in the immediate area and a single Jeep dealer. My 4x4 Laredo was one of 3 options for purchase at the time I picked this up. The rest were fwd. I didn't even have a limited option when I was looking. But what I did have a lot of choices for was a Ford explorer. So many of them good prices as well. Too bad I don't like ford.
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AWD Fusion is a joke.. you would have 'em in the snow.. but comparing yourself to a sedan isn't really fair. Racing, while fun doesn't really just mean in a straight line. If you raced... just about any car in the 3.7 ( in a straight line ) you would lose, i can't think of ANY CAR the 3.7 would have a chance at beating.. ( that's currently in production ) ... but i can think of many cars it can race off road and win
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Re: Who would win?

Allright lets not get out of hand it's not that slow, or mine is just the fast one that came out of the factory. lol
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Re: Who would win?

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AWD Fusion is a joke.. you would have 'em in the snow.. but comparing yourself to a sedan isn't really fair. Racing, while fun doesn't really just mean in a straight line. If you raced... just about any car in the 3.7 ( in a straight line ) you would lose, i can't think of ANY CAR the 3.7 would have a chance at beating.. ( that's currently in production ) ... but i can think of many cars it can race off road and win
Yea the AWD Fusions are a joke



That photo is of my AWD Lincoln which shares the same transmission and power control unit (Fords transfer case) as the Fusion. Even the same engine from 2010 model years and up. Wrapped in horrible OEM Michelin tires that was more suited for a warm drive on the beach than 7-8 inches of snow. There was also transmission scrap marks in the snow going up my driveway as I was driving with no problems. So much for the AWD Fusion suck theory

On top of that, the Fusion AWD system starts off as a FWD system until the rear tires are needed for power, vs the WK which starts off as a RWD system until the front tires are needed for power. Speaking from experience (real experience, not internet experience like some people ) IF your friend has an AWD Fusion, you will still lose in the snow or gravel. And if he has a 2007, he has the 3.0L BEFORE Ford mustard out 40 more horses out of it. That family of engines also tend to make a wide power band were the 3.7L doens't.
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Re: Who would win?

Still a joke. Pretty much the same driving experience off road with or without AWD on the 2013's. And the escapes on the focus frame? Come on now... It's the tires not the drive system. MIchellin's on an AWD Fusion I dare even say even with "winter" rated tires are not going to out perform a jeep with considerable ground clearance and tires suited for multiple conditions.
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Re: Who would win?

I swear some of you on this site is like a hemroid..... LOL

Drivetrain wise, unless you have a 2013 Fusion with the 1.6L engine, you have the SAME trans and AWD system as the 2012 Fusion. Even bringing up the 2013 is a moot point.

Why in the world are you comparing a car to a suv for off road use? The SUV.... even a 2WD SUV would be better for off road than a car. Whats next? Are you going to tell me that a Jeep is better than a segway at a mall?

We are talking about snow anyways......

Platforms often now and days get shared between other cars. But they also get modded for the car that the platform is going to use. Its called cost cutting. Thats the reason why Ford stayed on top while the other two was on life support. Oh BTW, the 1st and 2nd gen Escapes was sitting on a modded Mazda 626 platform. Another shocker, the same cost cutting was used in the Jeep Wrangler with their 3.8L V6 which was Chrysler minivan engine for years..... come on now...... .

Unless you have a Wrangler Rubencon or any other SUV/Truck that its sole reason of being is to go off road, the OEM tires SUCK in the snow. Winter tires will always have that extra edge in the snow. So much of an edge that in my KK with winter tires, I was going through snow in 2WD with no problems that a KK with OEM tires needed the 4WD on. But back to the main point, lets just say we have 6 inches of snow on the ground. The AWD Fusion with winter tires will do you better than a AWD Jeep WK with all season tires EVEN if the Fusion is scraping the snow. The drive system will only do the work if the tires are able to keep up. Winter tires are made to bite into the snow and get rid of the snow from its tread. A all season tires, normally do not have a good bite and often can not get rid of the snow as well.
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