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Old 03-15-2014, 08:27 PM
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gotcha, thank you guys.

thanks. no custom wheels, just 17" Ronin II. Makes sense to me.
I went to that shop I posted about and the guy didn't seem like had much time. Or was happy with me having an idea of what I was talking about. He wanted to put my jeep on a lift, not needed to just scan that sensor. I mentioned what I see, and he said sounds like that sensor is out. I said okay well I am going to replace them all. He said I wouldn't, just replace them as they go. Um they are going to go sooner then later, 07 (63,500 miles). He said that's going to be expensive. 85 bucks a piece installed, I said I will get my own, how much if you install them. He said OEM are going to be expensive. I said I was going to get aftermarket. He said $25 a wheel. Since he has to break the seal, So what, you don't have to remove the tire completely. Another shop did them on my WJ I think 15 each. Another place swapped tires on my wife's accord, and I think they were 10 each. So I am going to pick up 4 sensors 315mhz. Schrader or Dorman? 1 better then the other or?
The WK sensors don't need magnets to train them do they? I haven't even seen a training TPMS screen like there was on my WJ. I believe I read you just drive and they will synch up. Is that correct?



looks great. See that 15 to swap tires and this guy wanted 25 a wheel to break a seal. Unreal
yup just drive around to get the sensors to relearn. takes maybe 5-10 miles or so to learn new sensors. I would replace them all that way you wont be having to do it for a while
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Old 03-15-2014, 08:28 PM
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now that is interesting, you may have a dropped valve and it came in contact with the piston bending it and that in turn contacted the plug
I agree with Jeff, no comp and the plug, no other explanation that covers both. I'm guessing it dropped a valve and smashed into the plug. Best case is that it only got the piston, more likely that it wedged and scored the crap out of the cylinder though. Either way, head(s) gotta go and block should be gone through. Your crystal ball must've given you some kind of insight when you ordered that motor before signs of trouble. You could probably sell what you pull out for someone lookin to rebuild/upgrade, unless you're mechanically inclined and are willing to do it yourself, it probably wouldn't make sense to rebuild it at this point. I hate it when a Jeep goes down...
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I believe the block can be saved and machined back to new or bored out to a larger displacement
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yup just drive around to get the sensors to relearn. takes maybe 5-10 miles or so to learn new sensors. I would replace them all that way you wont be having to do it for a while
thanks Jeff. 1 more question on this topic. I believe LOL
I guess I have to drop the spare to see if it has a sensor or not?
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thanks Jeff. 1 more question on this topic. I believe LOL
I guess I have to drop the spare to see if it has a sensor or not?
you can check it, I know some WK's had them and some don't, mine didn't have one, and it didn't trip the TPMS light eighter
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Old 03-15-2014, 08:47 PM
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gotcha, thank you guys. thanks. no custom wheels, just 17" Ronin II. Makes sense to me. I went to that shop I posted about and the guy didn't seem like had much time. Or was happy with me having an idea of what I was talking about. He wanted to put my jeep on a lift, not needed to just scan that sensor. I mentioned what I see, and he said sounds like that sensor is out. I said okay well I am going to replace them all. He said I wouldn't, just replace them as they go. Um they are going to go sooner then later, 07 (63,500 miles). He said that's going to be expensive. 85 bucks a piece installed, I said I will get my own, how much if you install them. He said OEM are going to be expensive. I said I was going to get aftermarket. He said $25 a wheel. Since he has to break the seal, So what, you don't have to remove the tire completely. Another shop did them on my WJ I think 15 each. Another place swapped tires on my wife's accord, and I think they were 10 each. So I am going to pick up 4 sensors 315mhz. Schrader or Dorman? 1 better then the other or? The WK sensors don't need magnets to train them do they? I haven't even seen a training TPMS screen like there was on my WJ. I believe I read you just drive and they will synch up. Is that correct? looks great. See that 15 to swap tires and this guy wanted 25 a wheel to break a seal. Unreal
That is ridiculous pricing! Being in "the industry" I can tell you it only takes breaking the first bead and keeping the bead breaker in place holding the tire in the drop center of the wheel. Then you simply unscrew the retaining nut, drop the old sensor out, insert your new sensor and screw the new nut back on. Can literally be done in under 5 mins/wheel. The WK's don't need a magnet to reset, they're automatic with driving, they say it takes 20 miles @55mph but that's extremely generous. A trip around the neighborhood should set em. If you have Americas tire or Discount tire around you I know they only charge $4/dismount and you don't even need the full dismount so they should have no problem doing it for you. And don't let em tell you they'll need to be rebalanced or anything else cuz they won't, you're not changing the rotational position or "clocking" of the tire to wheel so the balance will not be affected and you're replacing the same weight that you're taking out with sensors so don't let me get ya for the extra $10+/wheel. You could do em as they go but I'm a fan of preventative maintenance and they will all go soon, less than a year before the other 3 die out, and you'll waste more of your time whenever they decide to go. I've seen it more than I can count. As far as which ones to go with, Schrader makes most of the OEM sensors for a lot of auto makers but I've used both and can't say one was any better or more reliable than the other, as long as you mind your frequency which you've already got locked down. Your spare should have a sensor but don't worry about that one because it doesn't go into wake mode often so the battery will last longer. If I were in your position I wouldn't pay more than $30 total for the install job, it really is that easy. If you had a bead hammer or portable bead breaker you could do it in your garage if you have inflation capabilities.
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thanks Jeff. 1 more question on this topic. I believe LOL I guess I have to drop the spare to see if it has a sensor or not?
If your spare is face down like it should be you can just look at it. It'll either be a black rubber standard stem or a metal threaded stem with a nut. The spare in a WK shouldn't trip your TPMS light, under inflated, missing, or otherwise.
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now that is interesting, you may have a dropped valve and it came in contact with the piston bending it and that in turn contacted the plug
Yeah but Jeff what are the chances the valve stem will bend precisely so it lines up with the spark plug head?
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Yeah but Jeff what are the chances the valve stem will bend precisely so it lines up with the spark plug head?
low but that depends on which valve hit and the shape of the piston
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low but that depends on which valve hit and the shape of the piston
If that happened the valve would have gotten stuck and made sounds when it was running, and screwed up the whole lifter assembly. Could be the valve fell in and on every rotation smashed into the top of the chamber.
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If that happened the valve would have gotten stuck and made sounds when it was running, and screwed up the whole lifter assembly. Could be the valve fell in and on every rotation smashed into the top of the chamber.
not if the valve spring broke or the retainer on top broke or came off. and that is possible as well that the valve fell in or a piece of it broke off
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not if the valve spring broke or the retainer on top broke or came off. and that is possible as well that the valve fell in or a piece of it broke off
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