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That k you sir and what tune are you running hypertech?
Hypertec Max Energy 91oct tune. Hypertec claims 26hp and 26ftlbs. those numbers will be enhanced by mods

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Old 05-10-2014, 12:42 AM
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Hypertec Max Energy 91oct tune. Hypertec claims 26hp and 26ftlbs. those numbers will be enhanced by mods



Thanks bro, you know me, just an enthusiastic gear head lol
It will be amazing then I'll stand by on those headers and get the hyper tech programmer then headers after what do you think?
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It will be amazing then I'll stand by on those headers and get the hyper tech programmer then headers after what do you think?
Headers then programmer. better gains that way
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Headers then programmer. better gains that way
Man headers are like 400 lmfaooooo I'll see if I could get them this month then with the cheese I get some work
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Old 05-10-2014, 01:05 AM
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Man headers are like 400 lmfaooooo I'll see if I could get them this month then with the cheese I get some work
This is the exact ones im running.

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Old 05-10-2014, 01:19 AM
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I'll look online cause I want some of my parts powder coat black idk how the headlights will look with a powdercoat black grille since it comes out somewhat flat black
Negative. PC can be done with any finish you want, flat, semi gloss, gloss, super gloss, pearl, candy, etc... There are tons of powders and clears you can do. However, you can't PC your grille unless it's metal, if I remember correctly you're running OEM SRT front or doing the '08 conv, right? You can achieve any black and finish you desire with PC as long as it's on metal. Me personally, I PC everything that makes sense to. I'd PC skid plates without a second thought, far more durable than paint ever could be. To each their own tho brotha, your ride, your call. As long as you dig it, that's all that really matters man.
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Negative. PC can be done with any finish you want, flat, semi gloss, gloss, super gloss, pearl, candy, etc... There are tons of powders and clears you can do. However, you can't PC your grille unless it's metal, if I remember correctly you're running OEM SRT front or doing the '08 conv, right? You can achieve any black and finish you desire with PC as long as it's on metal. Me personally, I PC everything that makes sense to. I'd PC skid plates without a second thought, far more durable than paint ever could be. To each their own tho brotha, your ride, your call. As long as you dig it, that's all that really matters man.
Really even gloss black cause that's what I want gloss
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Yeah man, just stop into a local PC shop and talk with em, tell em what you're after and see how the convo goes. It'd probably help if you told em there's no rush and they can do it when they do another job with your color. That tip is so small and easy they wouldn't even notice the little extra work. They'll be sand blasting, shooting powder, and baking already so your piece would be easy to throw in the mix. The minimal amount of powder your piece would require is less than $5 worth. My guy would do it as a favor and a 6 pack but that's an established relationship, just go shoot the shit with the guys at a shop and see how it goes, never know unless you try man...
Just FYI, I did try - many times - PC, ceramic paint, high temp paints on the old tip (including sandblasting down to "bare metal"), the thing would just not keep the paint on it (some results lasted longer than a couple of weeks, but eventually would either turn brown/reddish and eventually flake off). I even tried a local store that powder coats jeeps and Nissan Patrols for military/Nato/UN applications, they where also shocked with the results. These options as suggested did not cost much, and some attempts where totally free as they would be running a batch for 200 vehicles (fleet applications) so asking for a tip to be PC is not worth their time to produce an invoice..

I would advise to try it ONCE if readily available and cheap, and if it does not work don't try again as the quality of the stainless steel would be the issue. The paint combination with the type of stainless steel defines the outcome. The stainless used on the Mopar (read Borla) was substandard for such applications - the thing discoloured and looked shit before attempting to paint it ... so the only solutions was to hack the damn thing off. Here is what it looked like in the end:

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Here you can see the paint coming off at the tip inner wall just a week after painting
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Re: What did you do to your WK today?

ethereal, I think that there is a possibility that the environment your in has an effect on why the tip didn't stay coated. Its constantly exposed to sand and hot (is it a dry heat or humid?). Also, the tip itself isn't really protected by the jeep very well. When I lived in fort Campbell, Kentucky, the climate does get hot (90's to lower 100's. july into august) but we are not exposed to the sand.

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ethereal, I think that there is a possibility that the environment your in has an effect on why the tip didn't stay coated. Its constantly exposed to sand and hot (is it a dry heat or humid?). Also, the tip itself isn't really protected by the jeep very well. When I lived in fort Campbell, Kentucky, the climate does get hot (90's to lower 100's. july into august) but we are not exposed to the sand.
Hey Man, true the climate here is quite hot in comparison, during the summer it is very humid. I don't think the sand is an issue , don't really get those crazy stand storm you see in the movies or in the games like Spec Ops - the Line ..

Nice job on the headers, but need to compare like for like in this instance as the quality of the stainless in the headers is probably far superior to that used in a Borla exhaust tip. I still stand by that the grade of stainless steel (not to claim to be a metallurgist - but there is massive variety of grades), which , in this case, determines the outcome. I see references for sales material on exhaust tips state 'high grade' as 304, which resembles a UNS numbering system.

As mentioned, its worth a try painting if it aint going to cost much, just wanting to state the hassle I had with this over the past year to get it the way I wanted it to be

EDIT: just had an interesting read in the difference between T304 and T409 in Stainless steel quality, If I had not discarded the old tip would have tested it with a magnet to see if it is a T409, I am betting on that being true:
"The difference between T-304 “Pro Series” and T-409 “XP Series” is quite simple. T-304 is the highest grade of stainless steel that can be used an any exhaust system. It is non-ferrous, which means it does not contain iron. As we all know iron rusts. Instead, T-304 has a higher concentration of chromium and nickel. T-304 is basically impervious to corrosion. A good way to test the grade of a stainless steel is to place a magnet up against it. If it doesn’t stick to the metal it is non-ferrous. If it sticks it has some degree of iron in it and is prone to rusting. T-304 is harder than T-409 and consequently is more difficult to form on the mandrel bending machines. T-304 is the specified grade of stainless steel for most food service, pharmaceutical, hospital, and medical facilities, as well as the grade of choice for most race car exhaust systems. As you might have guessed by now, T-409 does have some degree of iron in it. It is a better grade of stainless steel than the stainless steel used in most OEM exhaust systems (if equipped), but it will turn brown/gray and is prone to getting rust spots over time. This is especially true if placed in service in Northern climates where salt is used on the roads during the Winter months. If you are looking for an exhaust system that will withstand the test of time, we strongly recommend that you consider the Pro-Series T-304 exhaust system." --thedieselstop
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Affirm. They can do some outstanding stuff with PC now, even from 5 yrs ago to now the improvements are massive. I just had my wheels done and they've got 1 coat of standard gloss clear on top (not exposed to much heat and definitely not sustained) but on my YJ that I built I fab'd a disc brake conv for my rear axle using calipers and rotors from an '04 mustang cobra (completely badass upgrade by the way!) I stripped and PC'd the calipers in a gloss black and never had an issue with the heat, and my brakes got hot more than a few times on the trails and in the mtns. Although something to consider is that the calipers were cast aluminum (fronts were cast iron oem type) and not SS like you're dealing with so there may be adverse effects working with that material. I can honestly say in all the builds and projects I've done I have never tried to PC anything in stainless. It'd be a great topic to bring up with whatever shop you talk to and get their input, they're the pros after all and I would assume they'd know more about it than I do. Anyway, that's just my flavor of finish, there are many different routes to any destination so venture away and enjoy the trip my man! Here's a pic of my wheels with a PC gloss, was taken on the dark side of the rig so no sunlight to showcase the gloss but you can get the general idea. ImageUploadedByJeepGarage1399712421.719324.jpg
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