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Hey Man, true the climate here is quite hot in comparison, during the summer it is very humid. I don't think the sand is an issue , don't really get those crazy stand storm you see in the movies or in the games like Spec Ops - the Line ..

Nice job on the headers, but need to compare like for like in this instance as the quality of the stainless in the headers is probably far superior to that used in a Borla exhaust tip. I still stand by that the grade of stainless steel (not to claim to be a metallurgist - but there is massive variety of grades), which , in this case, determines the outcome. I see references for sales material on exhaust tips state 'high grade' as 304, which resembles a UNS numbering system.

As mentioned, its worth a try painting if it aint going to cost much, just wanting to state the hassle I had with this over the past year to get it the way I wanted it to be

EDIT: just had an interesting read in the difference between T304 and T409 in Stainless steel quality, If I had not discarded the old tip would have tested it with a magnet to see if it is a T409, I am betting on that being true:
"The difference between T-304 “Pro Series” and T-409 “XP Series” is quite simple. T-304 is the highest grade of stainless steel that can be used an any exhaust system. It is non-ferrous, which means it does not contain iron. As we all know iron rusts. Instead, T-304 has a higher concentration of chromium and nickel. T-304 is basically impervious to corrosion. A good way to test the grade of a stainless steel is to place a magnet up against it. If it doesn’t stick to the metal it is non-ferrous. If it sticks it has some degree of iron in it and is prone to rusting. T-304 is harder than T-409 and consequently is more difficult to form on the mandrel bending machines. T-304 is the specified grade of stainless steel for most food service, pharmaceutical, hospital, and medical facilities, as well as the grade of choice for most race car exhaust systems. As you might have guessed by now, T-409 does have some degree of iron in it. It is a better grade of stainless steel than the stainless steel used in most OEM exhaust systems (if equipped), but it will turn brown/gray and is prone to getting rust spots over time. This is especially true if placed in service in Northern climates where salt is used on the roads during the Winter months. If you are looking for an exhaust system that will withstand the test of time, we strongly recommend that you consider the Pro-Series T-304 exhaust system." --thedieselstop
Good point bro. I wanna say the jba's are t409. I just wanna add that with proper prep it could stick to a lower grade. What I mean is to scuff the surface so paint has some where to stick. I did it on my headers and I also mirror polished the insides to reduce carbon build up but I know it happens tho.

So as long as the tip is 409 or better and with prep work, I dont see an issue with paint.
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Re: What did you do to your WK today?

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Did you get your cross reference intel from a reputable source? You've gotta be careful with compatibility, they are in fact the proper frequency (315 MHz), but the ID codes may not be compatible. If they're the improper ID's your WCM won't recognize and learn the new sensors. With all that said, if the intel checks out and is deemed compatible, the metal stems vs. the rubber ones is a non issue, the TPMS sensors have been updated over the years and most are now using the rubber stem and separate sensor module, they're actually a far superior design and eliminate the risk of cracking the metal stem (which happens a lot!). As far as rebalancing after install, as long as you have sensors in your wheels currently and the balance is good, the weight differential between the 2 styles of sensors is minimal and won't have much if any centrifugal force value difference. So if your balance is good, then no, you won't need to balance after install.
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True, I guess I assume that whoever is installing the sensors will only drop the front bead and work from there (as I always do). If the tire is dismounted from the wheel entirely then a balance check is definitely recommended. The only reason not to have it checked arbitrarily while the wheels are off the Jeep is if you've got to pay for the check/balance, if your shop covers your balancing then it's always a good idea to have it checked as often as possible/convenient.
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Most shops don't just drop one bead tho, they force the rebalance for a little extra coin. I did the same thing only when the boss was around. otherwise I did front beads. but I did recheck balance but I never charged people for it
Awesome. Thanks for all the advice and input. I went to a local shop that has worked on my Jeeps before and they agreed the rubber vs metal stems shouldn't matter. As long as the part number works with my year and the frequency is correct. 1 spoke to another shop that said they could just drop the front bead, but if any issues they will have to remove the tire, thus needing re-balancing. I've even heard of people swapping sensors in their driveways with no tire mounting equipment. knowing my luck LOL. That auction ended anyways $60 bucks shipped for the set of 4 (never mounted), I told the seller to keep me in mind if the transaction doesn't go through. So purchasing is on hold temporarily. Now that I know the rubber stems will be okay, I am torn as the metal blend better with stock wheels. But as Rkirk stated the metal ones crack, and I had that happen on my WJ. Also on my WJ aftermarket ones wouldn't synch up. Is it worth spending the extra $ for OEM or would I be okay with some aftermarket ones?
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Old 05-10-2014, 07:27 AM
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Awesome. Thanks for all the advice and input. I went to a local shop that has worked on my Jeeps before and they agreed the rubber vs metal stems shouldn't matter. As long as the part number works with my year and the frequency is correct. 1 spoke to another shop that said they could just drop the front bead, but if any issues they will have to remove the tire, thus needing re-balancing. I've even heard of people swapping sensors in their driveways with no tire mounting equipment. knowing my luck LOL. That auction ended anyways $60 bucks shipped for the set of 4 (never mounted), I told the seller to keep me in mind if the transaction doesn't go through. So purchasing is on hold temporarily. Now that I know the rubber stems will be okay, I am torn as the metal blend better with stock wheels. But as Rkirk stated the metal ones crack, and I had that happen on my WJ. Also on my WJ aftermarket ones wouldn't synch up. Is it worth spending the extra $ for OEM or would I be okay with some aftermarket ones?
Have ya tired rockauto for the sensors?
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Mmmm my bday is coming up I know what I want lol thanks Jeff!

Happy early birthday man! Mines Monday. Lol and for my birthday I treated myself to the srt intake. And trying to find a predator U7137 cause my gf wants to get it for me all the Cali GC's gotta get together


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Have ya tired rockauto for the sensors?
I have looked there as well as Napa. I was trying to get a deal on some OEM ones. But if aftermarket will work I have no problem going that route.
Has anyone else heard of what Jeepgcoman is saying here
Tire pressure sensors 2007 WK
I can't find anything else on this. All posts just say replace and drive and will synch up. I'd hate to spend the money for the sensor(s) plus install and then still have the message come up and light flash.
Jeep Grand Cherokee WK - Tire Pressure Monitor System also says just replace and drive, and that only spare ID would need reprogramming
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I have looked there as well as Napa. I was trying to get a deal on some OEM ones. But if aftermarket will work I have no problem going that route.
Has anyone else heard of what Jeepgcoman is saying here
Tire pressure sensors 2007 WK
I can't find anything else on this. All posts just say replace and drive and will synch up. I'd hate to spend the money for the sensor(s) plus install and then still have the message come up and light flash.
Jeep Grand Cherokee WK - Tire Pressure Monitor System also says just replace and drive, and that only spare ID would need reprogramming
Well when I replaced one of mine with a dorman one from advanced, all I had to do was drive around for about 10-15 mins
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I got the 'service tpm system' with Dorman sensors 433MHz, contacted Dorman and they told me the export model don't support 'clonable' ones, despite trying to program these with the scan tool at the dealer$... Just a word of warning to export guys, stick to oem sensors ...


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I got the 'service tpm system' with Dorman sensors 433MHz, contacted Dorman and they told me the export model don't support 'clonable' ones, despite trying to program these with the scan tool at the dealer$... Just a word of warning to export guys, stick to oem sensors ...


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Those are hard to find. I managed to get one tho Might need to buy an intune or a trinity if you can't find one. Check the ramforumz tho


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Well when I replaced one of mine with a dorman one from advanced, all I had to do was drive around for about 10-15 mins
and all was good after that?
so maybe I should just go dorman since they are "cloneable" and just driving is enough
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and all was good after that?
so maybe I should just go dorman since they are "cloneable" and just driving is enough
I haven't had an issue since bro
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I haven't had an issue since bro
thanks brotha I appreciate it. So I guess I am just overthinking the whole thing. Just get 1 dorman sensor to replace the one that's not showing a pressure and call it a day. Worry about the others as they fail
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