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Old 02-19-2012, 10:36 AM
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Re: oil drain valve

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Are you people that lazy that you cant spend 20 seconds twice a year to unscrew a drain plug ? Anyone that follows this advice are like the lemmings jumping off a cliff. NO way would I, any mechanic, any automaker or anybody with an IQ over 10 ever risk losing an engine with a $3 part just to save 20 seconds.

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I didnt know we had any experts here


these valves are used in thousands of applications. Just because YOU THINK there is somnething wrong with using them does not mean there IS something wrong with using one.

now if you have PROOF that using one will cause any kind of a problem in standard use feel free to post it up.


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Old 02-19-2012, 11:27 AM
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...I didnt know we had any experts here....these valves are used in thousands of applications. Just because YOU THINK there is somnething wrong with using them does not mean there IS something wrong with using one. ..
...just legends in their own mind, like me.

Guess I better be concerned and also drive to Idaho to help out jeepgcoman. We've both had a Fumoto oil drain valve on for several years and didn't realize we had a problem.

BACK TO TOPIC: I'm absolutely paranoid about lube oil and lubricating system integrity. Been working on and operating machinery since 1968, from lawnmowers (5 hp) to diesels an gas turbines, through (aircraft carrier steam turbines (really big time hp) and everything in-between. Every kind of machinery failure you can imagine and one thread worth remembering is that nothing runs well upon loss of lube oil or lube oil pressure.
The Fumoto oil drain valve is clearly not worth $30 in intrinsic value. It does pay for itself in terms of "no-mess" and time savings value, as I change oil every 5K miles and that is 4-5 times per year. I ordered the one with the hose nipple and installed a piece of clear pastic hose on the end (with a spring clip and a protective plastic cap on the open end). I can see the draining process and it provides a second level of protection against inadvertent draining (...not really likely...read on). Finally, if you explore the site, you will see how to install a spring clip over the valve operating handle, thereby precluding inadvertent opening. On the HEMI, the drain valve is up in the drain hole opening, above the protective shield.

I would certainly entertain some justified logical argument as to why I'm willing to jeopardize the HEMI I waited 50 years to buy (now I find out it's the wrong model...I wanted a 426 cu. in. HEMI...). I went one step further and clocked the install so the handle stem points upward.
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Old 02-19-2012, 01:50 PM
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Re: oil drain valve

hey walt, for me it makes draining my wk oil a no ness situation. I have a steel skid plate protecting it. if that were to be compromised I will have more issues than a leaking broken valve.

i LIKE IT. I shouldnt have to justify MY use more than that.

I didnt PUSH the part oin anyone. a thread was started. i contributed as a user.....not a speculator, worry wort, or any other pretense.

the thread wasnt "EVEWRYONE NEEDS ONE OF THESE" so read, add your OPINION, and let the users decide.

no one tried to suggest that you DO ANYTHINg. if you dont agree with MY REASONS that I choose to use it.....OH WELL/
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Old 02-19-2012, 01:54 PM
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Re: oil drain valve

Well hare are at least a few people with leaking fumoto drain valves,

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=426749

and one who lost his entire crankcase full

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/61...alve-fail.html

these were on the first google page; odd are there are many more are out there that did not post on the internet
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Old 02-19-2012, 02:02 PM
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Re: oil drain valve

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Well hare are at least a few people with leaking fumoto drain valves,

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=426749

and one who lost his entire crankcase full

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/61...alve-fail.html

these were on the first google page; odd are there are many more are out there that did not post on the internet
If you read the 2nd one it sounds like it was his fault for not having a clamp on it like he should have if he was going off-road. Not to mention it doesnt sounds like it was protected with a skid guard like ours are.
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Re: oil drain valve

Yes I read it; and for those who have leaky valves or gaskets, you just spent a lot on new oil, then have to drain the new oil out to fix it, and until you get a new valve it continues to leak. At $8 a quart for synthetic, and 7 qts. for a hemi, plus the time and cost to do it all over again, no thanks....I will stick with the drain plug that will never fail.
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...i LIKE IT... I shouldnt have to justify MY use more than that. ...I didnt PUSH the part oin anyone. a thread was started. i contributed as a user.....not a speculator, worry wort, or any other pretense.... if you dont agree with MY REASONS that I choose to use it.....OH WELL/
I was agreeing with all of your points. Even saved the OEM drain plug so I can take the Fumoto with me to the next HEMI.

My post was not directed to take issue with your decision, rather try to bolster your position to the OP. No fight here.

With all of the new requirements for service, if we can make each one easier, we can enjoy the Jeeps more (at least in my twisted logic). These Jeep GC's require much more and more frequent maintenance than regular passenger cars. Not looking forward to the upcoming transmission drain/fill mess..........
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Re: oil drain valve

I have had one on my WK for about 5 years and I have never had an issue. I change oil monthly and with the hose nipple it saves allot of time and hassle. And as others have stated it is well protected by a skid plate.
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:42 AM
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Re: oil drain valve

Trying to remove the drain plug with 7+ quarts of fluid behind it & no room to quickly maneuver my arm out of the way & having fluid drip down my arm while trying to wiggle on my back out from under the vehicle... that's why I have a Fumoto. I can even turn the valve & pop the tubing on & off of it through the OEM skid by feel & avoid having to crawl all the way underneath. Which is awesome when the engine is still hot.
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Re: oil drain valve

I like mine. It has been on about 65k miles. The wk has 118k on it now and hasn't dripped a drop. I drive about 900 miles a week and makes oil changing much simpler.

If you don't want one and want to spend more time with mess and like hot oil down your arm I support you just the same.

I would definitely recommend them.
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i have close to 70k on mine now....... it has saved alot of time and mess. i love it!
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I love mine too!!! I have had it on for close to 60k miles with no issues. Since the valve is well protected by a skid plate there is no worry. No if you don't have a skid or you have the crappy plastic one I don't think I would use one. But I wheel the piss out of my WK without a worry
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