Go Back   Jeep Garage - Jeep Forum > Jeep Platform Discussion > Grand Cherokee - WK > Engine Performance/Intake/Exhaust

Join Jeep Garage Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
  #1  
Old 04-27-2012, 02:47 PM
WKX2's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Colorado
Posts: 62
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 46940
WKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond repute
performance heatwrapping

Finally got a pic of my heatwrapped CAI. Wanted to post in case others want to try this mod.

The heatwrap is from origin motorsports 2" x 50' $26.98 shipped (eBay)
comes with 8 stainless steel zip ties, they needed to be connected to form 4 larger steel ties to fit around CAI.

The material is made of a silicate based fiber that is coated to resist high temps, and can be used for exhaust, headers, turbo manifold, downpipes, etc.. basically whatever you want to isolate from engine heat.



I think the overall job looks good, and most importantly I've noticed a better throttle response over longer trips since installing (3 150 mile trips this week) the throttle response seems to occur over 4k RPM, and provided plenty of oomph to get over the 8500' altitude hills between where I live and Denver. My rig was previously sluggish and I had to kick it into cruise control to not lose speed before the CAI and heatwrap. This will only improve after the FRP TB mod I plan to get soon..

Only recommendations I have is to wear long sleeves and nitrile or mech gloves as the fibers will get all over your skin and arms (and engine) and is a real PITA to get off skin....not too mention annoying as hell.

I have a bit left over that I'm considering using on the coolant pipe from the rad to the engine, anyone recommend or NOT recommend this?

Thanks for reading, HTH.
__________________

__________________
I like Jeeps and stuff.

2010 WK Laredo, Falken WildPeaks & Chome adds.
2007 WK Laredo, Custom JVC EXAD DVD, Inifinty Kappa F/R doors, PD wheels, thermal wrapped K&N CAI, Duralast Gold Battery, Dynomax Super Turbo, K&N oil filter, DIY mesh grill...


Past and current projects here: http://www.hostpic.org/images/35MYJEEPS.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-28-2012, 01:20 PM
WKX2's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Colorado
Posts: 62
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 46940
WKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: performance heatwrapping

well gents, I went ahead and wrapped it anyway. if nothing else it looks great...
__________________

__________________
I like Jeeps and stuff.

2010 WK Laredo, Falken WildPeaks & Chome adds.
2007 WK Laredo, Custom JVC EXAD DVD, Inifinty Kappa F/R doors, PD wheels, thermal wrapped K&N CAI, Duralast Gold Battery, Dynomax Super Turbo, K&N oil filter, DIY mesh grill...


Past and current projects here: http://www.hostpic.org/images/35MYJEEPS.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-28-2012, 02:13 PM
FlyinRyan's Avatar
Senior Member
My Jeep: 2002 4.7L WJ
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Fort Myers, Florida
Posts: 2,800
Thanks: 33
Thanked 30 Times in 29 Posts
Rep Power: 88559
FlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to FlyinRyan
Re: performance heatwrapping

Did you wet it prior to wrapping?

I've had good results with wrap.
__________________
Due to my workload, please do not PM me as I do not regularly check my PMs. Thank you :)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-28-2012, 03:03 PM
jlewissystem's Avatar
Fo sheezy my neezy
My Jeep: 2006 5.7L WK
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: STL, MO
Posts: 1,465
Thanks: 37
Thanked 67 Times in 61 Posts
Rep Power: 1278242
jlewissystem has a reputation beyond reputejlewissystem has a reputation beyond reputejlewissystem has a reputation beyond reputejlewissystem has a reputation beyond reputejlewissystem has a reputation beyond reputejlewissystem has a reputation beyond reputejlewissystem has a reputation beyond reputejlewissystem has a reputation beyond reputejlewissystem has a reputation beyond reputejlewissystem has a reputation beyond reputejlewissystem has a reputation beyond repute
Re: performance heatwrapping

i suport your heatwrap, although i wanted to get some numbers (before and after) to measure the difference it makes. Cant hurt and does look cool! Good job dood

__________________

2006 5.7 WK ORT | DiabloSport Predator | FlyinRyan Custom TCM Tune & Ported Throttle Body | (Painted Red) OME HD | Moto Metal 951's | 265/70/17 Duratrac's | Custom SEGUARO Front Bumper | Magnaflow Cat Back 16631 | Airaid Intake | Jet 180 T-Stat | BTT Catch Can | XenonDepot 5000 HID Lows | LED Fogs | JR's Custom Shorty Antenna | De-badged | Rola Roof Rack | MOAR LYTES: Eagle Eye HID Spots | Rigid D2's (Rear) | 7" LED SYDE Lights | 4xGuard Front Skid | Aries Rear Tail Light Guards | FULL Interior LED's | Interior VINYL Wrap | (Painted Red) Strut Bar | Pioneer AVH-4200 | Custom Rear Camera | (Painted Red) Calipers | Gorilla Black Locking "System" | SRT8 Shift Knob | (BUILD THREAD)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-29-2012, 08:49 AM
FlyinRyan's Avatar
Senior Member
My Jeep: 2002 4.7L WJ
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Fort Myers, Florida
Posts: 2,800
Thanks: 33
Thanked 30 Times in 29 Posts
Rep Power: 88559
FlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond reputeFlyinRyan has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to FlyinRyan
Re: performance heatwrapping

Quote:
Originally Posted by jlewissystem View Post
i suport your heatwrap, although i wanted to get some numbers (before and after) to measure the difference it makes. Cant hurt and does look cool! Good job dood
I was able to datalog IATs in my DD Honda with/without wrap. Regardless of location of the airfilter, the wrap consistently pulled cooler IATs and was slower to heat soak (in comparison to plastic unwrapped) when stopped in traffic. My IAT was pulling readings from the aluminum manifold plenum, not the intake tube.
__________________
Due to my workload, please do not PM me as I do not regularly check my PMs. Thank you :)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-01-2012, 10:56 PM
Madanio24's Avatar
Senior Member
My Jeep: 2005 3.7L WK
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Eastern Shore MD/NJ/NY
Posts: 1,899
Thanks: 8
Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts
Rep Power: 11200
Madanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Send a message via Skype™ to Madanio24
Re: performance heatwrapping

Quote:
Originally Posted by WKX2 View Post
Finally got a pic of my heatwrapped CAI. Wanted to post in case others want to try this mod.

The heatwrap is from origin motorsports 2" x 50' $26.98 shipped (eBay)
comes with 8 stainless steel zip ties, they needed to be connected to form 4 larger steel ties to fit around CAI.

The material is made of a silicate based fiber that is coated to resist high temps, and can be used for exhaust, headers, turbo manifold, downpipes, etc.. basically whatever you want to isolate from engine heat.



I think the overall job looks good, and most importantly I've noticed a better throttle response over longer trips since installing (3 150 mile trips this week) the throttle response seems to occur over 4k RPM, and provided plenty of oomph to get over the 8500' altitude hills between where I live and Denver. My rig was previously sluggish and I had to kick it into cruise control to not lose speed before the CAI and heatwrap. This will only improve after the FRP TB mod I plan to get soon..

Only recommendations I have is to wear long sleeves and nitrile or mech gloves as the fibers will get all over your skin and arms (and engine) and is a real PITA to get off skin....not too mention annoying as hell.

I have a bit left over that I'm considering using on the coolant pipe from the rad to the engine, anyone recommend or NOT recommend this?

Thanks for reading, HTH.
How did you mount your air charge sensor? I would very much like to remove that big black box.
__________________
Matt
-05 WK Black
Too many mods to list...
-90 Integra GS
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-05-2012, 01:30 PM
WKX2's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Colorado
Posts: 62
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 46940
WKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: performance heatwrapping

Quote:
Originally Posted by Madanio24 View Post
How did you mount your air charge sensor? I would very much like to remove that big black box.
it's hard to see in the pic but the sensor is mounted to the CAI tube from the bottom, held in place with some JB Weld. I then wound the thermal wrap around it. I'll try to get a better pic if you are interested in seeing it...
__________________
I like Jeeps and stuff.

2010 WK Laredo, Falken WildPeaks & Chome adds.
2007 WK Laredo, Custom JVC EXAD DVD, Inifinty Kappa F/R doors, PD wheels, thermal wrapped K&N CAI, Duralast Gold Battery, Dynomax Super Turbo, K&N oil filter, DIY mesh grill...


Past and current projects here: http://www.hostpic.org/images/35MYJEEPS.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-05-2012, 03:20 PM
Madanio24's Avatar
Senior Member
My Jeep: 2005 3.7L WK
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Eastern Shore MD/NJ/NY
Posts: 1,899
Thanks: 8
Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts
Rep Power: 11200
Madanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond reputeMadanio24 has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Send a message via Skype™ to Madanio24
Re: performance heatwrapping

Quote:
Originally Posted by WKX2 View Post
it's hard to see in the pic but the sensor is mounted to the CAI tube from the bottom, held in place with some JB Weld. I then wound the thermal wrap around it. I'll try to get a better pic if you are interested in seeing it...
Yes please, I would very much like to remove the 3.7 black box and replace it like yours.
__________________
Matt
-05 WK Black
Too many mods to list...
-90 Integra GS
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-05-2012, 06:32 PM
omelet's Avatar
Senior Member
My Jeep: 2005 5.7L WK
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,608
Thanks: 3
Thanked 42 Times in 40 Posts
Rep Power: 448417
omelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond repute
Re: performance heatwrapping

I did something similar to mine! I wrapped the tube on my Volant and also covered the sides of the box that face the engine.





Seems to work pretty good and looks sweet too!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-08-2012, 03:37 PM
WKX2's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Colorado
Posts: 62
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 46940
WKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: performance heatwrapping

Looks good Ramrod.. Is that dynomat on your volant? What type of filter are you running in there?

It might be time for some professional battery terminals on that yellow top. I'm in a project right now running 6gauge + and - from the battery to then inside (under the dash) to distribution blocks; from there it will divide into 8 12volt sources each. I'm ripping the cig lighter adapters off my gps, phone charger, fog light switch, etc and running directly to the distribution blocks to get rid of all the cables running all over the place. Will post pics/write-ups when finished..
__________________
I like Jeeps and stuff.

2010 WK Laredo, Falken WildPeaks & Chome adds.
2007 WK Laredo, Custom JVC EXAD DVD, Inifinty Kappa F/R doors, PD wheels, thermal wrapped K&N CAI, Duralast Gold Battery, Dynomax Super Turbo, K&N oil filter, DIY mesh grill...


Past and current projects here: http://www.hostpic.org/images/35MYJEEPS.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-08-2012, 04:30 PM
omelet's Avatar
Senior Member
My Jeep: 2005 5.7L WK
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,608
Thanks: 3
Thanked 42 Times in 40 Posts
Rep Power: 448417
omelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond reputeomelet has a reputation beyond repute
Thanks bud! It's not dynomat, I actually don't remember what it is or where I got it I bought it years ago for my XJ to do the same thing. It is a reflective heat shield with a type of sticker foam back. It seems to work pretty good with the cool tape! Right now I am running the Volant filter that the kit came with along with a K&N DryCharger. I plan to swap out the filter for a dry type soon though.

My wiring on the battery might not look too pretty, but it gets the job done. The two large cables are for the winch and the BlueSea aux fuse box. The other one is for the ARB compressor, it draws too much for the aux box to handle. All of my other accessories are wired through the aux box and their own relays. There is quite a bit going on on this thing

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-08-2012, 05:46 PM
WKX2's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Colorado
Posts: 62
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 46940
WKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond reputeWKX2 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: performance heatwrapping

whoa, quite a bit going on indeed I'd say the job is def getting done. I wish I had the room for my distro box next to the battery too.

If I had the winch + stereo amps, & all the accessories I'd be running a high amperage isolator and 2 of those yellow tops. Sorry for the OT
__________________

__________________
I like Jeeps and stuff.

2010 WK Laredo, Falken WildPeaks & Chome adds.
2007 WK Laredo, Custom JVC EXAD DVD, Inifinty Kappa F/R doors, PD wheels, thermal wrapped K&N CAI, Duralast Gold Battery, Dynomax Super Turbo, K&N oil filter, DIY mesh grill...


Past and current projects here: http://www.hostpic.org/images/35MYJEEPS.jpg
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Performance IRISH Engine Performance/Intakes/Exhausts 18 04-22-2012 06:53 PM
best performance jeepsterjohn Engine Performance/Intake/Exhaust 6 04-16-2012 04:21 AM
CAI Intake Performance and Performance Chip White Chocolate Performance Modifications 25 02-14-2011 09:12 PM
5.7 Performance jcostri09 Performance Modifications 9 02-13-2010 12:36 AM
performance ?'s derekblk06rt Troubleshooting/Problems Discussion 22 07-24-2009 07:48 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 - JeepGarage.Org
The Jeep Grand Cherokee Owners Community