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Re: How do I get more suspension travel?

Bought raybestos control arms. To my eyes they are of equal or better quality than oem. They verified alignment after installing them and no adjustments were made or required. The front end feels more stable and my shocks don't hit the axles anymore.

$271 shipped for both lca from rock auto.
$238 installed by local Goodyear shop.
$18.37 cab ride to pick it up including tip.

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$1500 from Dodge dealer after negotiating mopar lcas down to $380/en (MSRP @ $450)

Now...

Need new brakes it's time at 70k. I'll probably down hawk ceramic and r1 rotors. They are the only source of high quality blanks for this vehicle that I've found. I hate slots and cross drilled is a gimmick imo. People track the hell out of vipers with blanks just fine.

Also tires. Mine are oem 70k mile old forteras lol!
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Bought raybestos control arms. To my eyes they are of equal or better quality than oem. They verified alignment after installing them and no adjustments were made or required. The front end feels more stable and my shocks don't hit the axles anymore.

$271 shipped for both lca from rock auto.
$238 installed by local Goodyear shop.
$18.37 cab ride to pick it up including tip.

Vs.

$1500 from Dodge dealer after negotiating mopar lcas down to $380/en (MSRP @ $450)

Now...

Need new brakes it's time at 70k. I'll probably down hawk ceramic and r1 rotors. They are the only source of high quality blanks for this vehicle that I've found. I hate slots and cross drilled is a gimmick imo. People track the hell out of vipers with blanks just fine.

Also tires. Mine are oem 70k mile old forteras lol!
Good to hear it fixed now!
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Good to hear it fixed now!
Yep. No more peened shock.

What is disconcerting, though, is that during the last 25% of the steering wheel's travel on a hard turn sitting still/slowly turning into a parking-space, the steering still feels "jerky". Is this just normal? I don't know how tight these things are turning, really, but my Corvette and 370Z with wide tires would feel similar because the inside/outside of the tires turned at different rates and the tire would "skip/slip" doing the same thing, but it felt kindof different.

I badly need new tires, and will see if hte new tires make it feel different. Thoughts? (oh, my tires squeak HORRIBLY over painted lines, and blacktop parkinglots with that sealer on them, making me think that the tight turning radius is stressing the tread as mentioned above.)
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Yep. No more peened shock.

What is disconcerting, though, is that during the last 25% of the steering wheel's travel on a hard turn sitting still/slowly turning into a parking-space, the steering still feels "jerky". Is this just normal? I don't know how tight these things are turning, really, but my Corvette and 370Z with wide tires would feel similar because the inside/outside of the tires turned at different rates and the tire would "skip/slip" doing the same thing, but it felt kindof different.

I badly need new tires, and will see if hte new tires make it feel different. Thoughts? (oh, my tires squeak HORRIBLY over painted lines, and blacktop parkinglots with that sealer on them, making me think that the tight turning radius is stressing the tread as mentioned above.)
yeah, the steering in these things is sensitive to input and worn tires will hurt the feel some
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yeah, the steering in these things is sensitive to input and worn tires will hurt the feel some
Took it on dirt/gravel just now. Felt great. It's inner/outer tire rotation and a STOOPID tight radius.
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Re: How do I get more suspension travel?

Well. This didn't last long. Probably going to have to replace these cheap LCA's with quality MOPAR LCA's. They squeak godawful bad until they warm up. Even the trashed factory 70K mile old worn out LCA's didn't do that. I kindof was suspicious of the $117/ea price tag...

Accelerate: sounds like a 400# guy in a wicker chair. Same for turning.
Hard braking with wheel straight: Quiet. Bumps: quiet.

Dunno. Probably just cheap rubber. *sigh*
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Well. This didn't last long. Probably going to have to replace these cheap LCA's with quality MOPAR LCA's. They squeak godawful bad until they warm up. Even the trashed factory 70K mile old worn out LCA's didn't do that. I kindof was suspicious of the $117/ea price tag...

Accelerate: sounds like a 400# guy in a wicker chair. Same for turning.
Hard braking with wheel straight: Quiet. Bumps: quiet.

Dunno. Probably just cheap rubber. *sigh*
Were they lubed up properly?
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Were they lubed up properly?
Dunno. The shop did lube the hell out of the zerks on the ball joints. I saw no other lube. What and how...
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Dunno. The shop did lube the hell out of the zerks on the ball joints. I saw no other lube. What and how...
Probably didnt lube the bushing in the lca
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Probably didnt lube the bushing in the lca
Where would you lube it? Why? It's just a steel insert that a bolt passes through? Which bushing? What should it be lubed with?
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Where would you lube it? Why? It's just a steel insert that a bolt passes through? Which bushing? What should it be lubed with?
Your new ones didnt come with grease zerks for the lca's? I would use a non water soluble grease on them. Grease the bushings in the lca where it mounts to the front sub frame with a coat of grease and represse them back in. Usually when bushings creak like how your describing is because the were installed dry.
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