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Re: How do I get more suspension travel?

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Your new ones didnt come with grease zerks for the lca's? I would use a non water soluble grease on them. Grease the bushings in the lca where it mounts to the front sub frame with a coat of grease and represse them back in. Usually when bushings creak like how your describing is because the were installed dry.
Say what? They are permanently pressed in by the factory. They came as they were. No zerks of course. Never heard of that.
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Say what? They are permanently pressed in by the factory. They came as they were. No zerks of course. Never heard of that.
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Yeah bro, id find a set with the zerks in them
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Yeah bro, id find a set with the zerks in them
Why even make trash without it. My OEM's didn't either.

Probably going to end up trading in a few months if this keeps up. Jeep ain't cutting it.

I mean, this is just ridiculous. All this foppish dandy crap it requires to run right. I'm surprised I don't have to make love to it and buy it flowers to get it to crank. Toyota. Gas. Oil. Drive. This is just VERY frustrating. I have never enjoyed my jeep without worrying since I've gotten it. Broke broke broke. All the damn time. REALLY leaning to an FJ Cruiser if this doesn't get squared away at some point this year. I mean, how many thousands of dollars do I need to waste to make my Jeep work like it should?

Also, FYI, NOONE makes a set of LCA's with grease zerks based on all my Googling. Nada.

Very frustrated with this vehicle. It costs more to maintain than my Z06 Corvette did. It has worse reliability than my old 2001 F-body did, and it's really wearing me down.
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Re: How do I get more suspension travel?

Looks like the ball joint boot is leaking. Normal for it to have a little hole in it or something?
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Looks like the ball joint boot is leaking. Normal for it to have a little hole in it or something?
Maybe a vent hole for excesse grease but normally no.
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Maybe a vent hole for excesse grease but normally no.
It appears that this is indeed a vent hole as the LCA ball-joint on the other side does it, too, and the plastic moulding in a circular area where it is, appears "different" in the same area on both sides.

Ball joints greased, and shot PB Blaster all over all the hardware. Still squeaks. I am going to verify that all bolts are tight. It really sounds like a loose bolt creaking just a tiny bit, and that it does it more when the temperature is cold makes sense.
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Re: How do I get more suspension travel?

I have no clue what kind of girlymen worked on my Jeep, or if their air-wrench was sick, or what, but I finally found the problem with the creaking/popping up front. Two of the bolts on the control arms were not tight and were slipping under load. I fixed it with a 3/8" drive and socket. About an 8 or 10 inch handle. While awkwardly crawled under the Jeep without jacking it up. It's pathetic that I generated significantly more force like this than two people using a lift standing under the vehicle with air-wrenches at their disposal. Anyway, Jeep fixed

The louder control arm was about 1/4 turn loose (I am sure it could go more if I weren't awkwardly crammed under the vehicle with a little 3/8" drive socket) and the one that wasn't really an issue was about 1/8 or so turn loose. Now it is quiet even going "offroad" (going through the local college's ballfield parkinglot (dried muddy field with huge ruts and dips).

For $250 out the door, I really can't complain about a couple of loose (not life-threatening, just annoying as hell) bolts, but still. Kindof lame. They need to feed those men better or give them gloves or a pep-talk or something.
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I have no clue what kind of girlymen worked on my Jeep, or if their air-wrench was sick, or what, but I finally found the problem with the creaking/popping up front. Two of the bolts on the control arms were not tight and were slipping under load. I fixed it with a 3/8" drive and socket. About an 8 or 10 inch handle. While awkwardly crawled under the Jeep without jacking it up. It's pathetic that I generated significantly more force like this than two people using a lift standing under the vehicle with air-wrenches at their disposal. Anyway, Jeep fixed

The louder control arm was about 1/4 turn loose (I am sure it could go more if I weren't awkwardly crammed under the vehicle with a little 3/8" drive socket) and the one that wasn't really an issue was about 1/8 or so turn loose. Now it is quiet even going "offroad" (going through the local college's ballfield parkinglot (dried muddy field with huge ruts and dips).

For $250 out the door, I really can't complain about a couple of loose (not life-threatening, just annoying as hell) bolts, but still. Kindof lame. They need to feed those men better or give them gloves or a pep-talk or something.
Im glad its finally fixed bro. Maybe now you can enjoy the jeep better
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Im glad its finally fixed bro. Maybe now you can enjoy the jeep better
Yeah, it's been extremely frustrating, and I was leery of it anyway because all my friends have bad things to say about Chrysler, even if the JGC seems to be a popular well loved product.

I mean, as soon as I bought it, I knew it needed tires and an alignment.

I then changed transmission fluid ($275), then the T-case and F/R Diffs ($350), then did Bilstein F/R shocks ($500 including labor) then the accessory belt ($60 MOPAR part), then the PCV (Again with the MOPAR part...), then the gas-cap ($28, yay!), then the spark plugs ($350 including labor...every 30K miles!? WTF!? But...okay...) and I had then planned tires/alignment and done!

But it just wasn't so. The front control arm bushings went out (had been going out, likely). So then $1800 quote for that, ended up getting it done for $<600. Then the squeaking.

Finally have the squeak/clunk under control...

...and now I can buy tires and an alignment with my next paycheck. It's just, this thing has been soaking up every cent of my disposable income since I've gotten it. As soon as I make the money, it just hoovers it up, and I was excited to only have a $395/mo vehicle payment, but this has been...exceptional. As you can imagine, it's royally frustrated me, and I'm sure it has shown. In less than 3 months, that's $2.2K including the tires planned...when I had been planning on maybe $600+ tires.

Hopefully...hopefully now it's tire/alignment time (oh, and first oil-change. Likely going with a Mobil 1 filter and Pennzoil Ultra Synthetic unless you have a better idea?).
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Yeah, it's been extremely frustrating, and I was leery of it anyway because all my friends have bad things to say about Chrysler, even if the JGC seems to be a popular well loved product.

I mean, as soon as I bought it, I knew it needed tires and an alignment.

I then changed transmission fluid ($275), then the T-case and F/R Diffs ($350), then did Bilstein F/R shocks ($500 including labor) then the accessory belt ($60 MOPAR part), then the PCV (Again with the MOPAR part...), then the gas-cap ($28, yay!), then the spark plugs ($350 including labor...every 30K miles!? WTF!? But...okay...) and I had then planned tires/alignment and done!

But it just wasn't so. The front control arm bushings went out (had been going out, likely). So then $1800 quote for that, ended up getting it done for $<600. Then the squeaking.

Finally have the squeak/clunk under control...

...and now I can buy tires and an alignment with my next paycheck. It's just, this thing has been soaking up every cent of my disposable income since I've gotten it. As soon as I make the money, it just hoovers it up, and I was excited to only have a $395/mo vehicle payment, but this has been...exceptional. As you can imagine, it's royally frustrated me, and I'm sure it has shown. In less than 3 months, that's $2.2K including the tires planned...when I had been planning on maybe $600+ tires.

Hopefully...hopefully now it's tire/alignment time (oh, and first oil-change. Likely going with a Mobil 1 filter and Pennzoil Ultra Synthetic unless you have a better idea?).
wow, that is a lot of things bro, didn't realize that. IDK, I don't have hardly any issues with my 08. I mean at 68, almost 69k miles its been fairly good to me and I beat the piss outta it! I do think however that the suspension is beginning to wear out. just small things I began to notice last year. I do have a suspension build I been planning so no issues there.

Any way, didn't mean to highjack your thread but for oil, I only run Pennzoil ultra syn. 5W20 and a K&N oil filter for a little added protection.
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wow, that is a lot of things bro, didn't realize that. IDK, I don't have hardly any issues with my 08. I mean at 68, almost 69k miles its been fairly good to me and I beat the piss outta it! I do think however that the suspension is beginning to wear out. just small things I began to notice last year. I do have a suspension build I been planning so no issues there.

Any way, didn't mean to highjack your thread but for oil, I only run Pennzoil ultra syn. 5W20 and a K&N oil filter for a little added protection.
Yeah, now you see why I hit the roof over it. I mean, I get that 90% of my list was maintenance item, but when you throw LCA's on there on a 69K mile old vehicle, it really ticks me off adding insult to injury. This jeep is VERY EXPENSIVE to own (more than my C6 Z06).

ETA; That's $2200 EXCLUDING the planned tires. So right at $1K/mo+insurance+gas+$395 note. Yeah....suckfest.
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Yeah, now you see why I hit the roof over it. I mean, I get that 90% of my list was maintenance item, but when you throw LCA's on there on a 69K mile old vehicle, it really ticks me off adding insult to injury. This jeep is VERY EXPENSIVE to own (more than my C6 Z06).

ETA; That's $2200 EXCLUDING the planned tires. So right at $1K/mo+insurance+gas+$395 note. Yeah....suckfest.
im at 400 a month + 25 for storage insurance. id be mad too if I had to replace a major component like lca's. but I do think it should be better now
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