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Re: I'm gonna make SRT triangle Brackets

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Old 11-01-2012, 09:58 PM
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Re: I'm gonna make SRT triangle Brackets

Thanks for the support. Last night I was really wondering if I should even try.

The shorter link should do two things. One, being shorter it should have less give or flex. The purpose of a sway link is that when you hit a pot hole or bump, the suspension can flex a little and not jar you. The bwoody links would be great for going to the track, but I think that on everyday roads they would transfer a lot of road vibration through the steering and chassis. The second observation is that it changes the geometry of how the link meets with the sway bar. I'm not sure how this would affect anything, but maybe it puts less strain or twisting on the mounting point of the link. I am venturing into the area of educated guessing on this one. Since I'm now guessing now, I have more theories. Maybe it mounts lower simply because in order make the link shorter and more thus more rigid, it was easier to add a bracket than re-engineer the whole frame. It could just be a matter of economics for Jeep. And my final theory, engineers and lawyers for jeep were afraid that someone in an SRT8 jeep might actually drive it hard and over engineered the SRT8 links to avoid recalls and passed the price onto us, whether it was needed or not.

All of that said, two things are common knowledge if you read the forums. MANY users here have installed the srt8 swaybar with the wk links and had no complaints. I believe Scottina even said that after he installed the srt8 links, he felt no significant difference. And then to add credibility to these observations, the Commander comes with the srt8 rear bar stock and the wk links!

This thread started largely as an exercise in thinking outside the corporate box. But I have a new problem with the construction of the bracket. The original uses multiple compound bends both for rigidity and to fit the frame snugly. I don't think I can do that myself and cost of someone else doing it will make it not cost effective. I could use fender washers to get the spacing right and thicker steels as the fab shop suggested, but then that calls into question bolt strength and length....

If you guys can get me the measurements or confirm/deny any of my conspiracy theories, that would be great!
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Re: I'm gonna make SRT triangle Brackets

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Thanks for the support. Last night I was really wondering if I should even try.

The shorter link should do two things. One, being shorter it should have less give or flex. The purpose of a sway link is that when you hit a pot hole or bump, the suspension can flex a little and not jar you. The bwoody links would be great for going to the track, but I think that on everyday roads they would transfer a lot of road vibration through the steering and chassis. The second observation is that it changes the geometry of how the link meets with the sway bar. I'm not sure how this would affect anything, but maybe it puts less strain or twisting on the mounting point of the link. I am venturing into the area of educated guessing on this one. Since I'm now guessing now, I have more theories. Maybe it mounts lower simply because in order make the link shorter and more thus more rigid, it was easier to add a bracket than re-engineer the whole frame. It could just be a matter of economics for Jeep. And my final theory, engineers and lawyers for jeep were afraid that someone in an SRT8 jeep might actually drive it hard and over engineered the SRT8 links to avoid recalls and passed the price onto us, whether it was needed or not.

All of that said, two things are common knowledge if you read the forums. MANY users here have installed the srt8 swaybar with the wk links and had no complaints. I believe Scottina even said that after he installed the srt8 links, he felt no significant difference. And then to add credibility to these observations, the Commander comes with the srt8 rear bar stock and the wk links!

This thread started largely as an exercise in thinking outside the corporate box. But I have a new problem with the construction of the bracket. The original uses multiple compound bends both for rigidity and to fit the frame snugly. I don't think I can do that myself and cost of someone else doing it will make it not cost effective. I could use fender washers to get the spacing right and thicker steels as the fab shop suggested, but then that calls into question bolt strength and length....

If you guys can get me the measurements or confirm/deny any of my conspiracy theories, that would be great!
The triangle bracket is ~1/8 of an inch thick. Id say go for it. As for the hole size, it shouldn't be larger than the bolt's diameter that you are going to connect it to the end links.
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Re: I'm gonna make SRT triangle Brackets

Well next week my parts arrive so I can begin my srt8 suspension upgrades. Once I get in there and take some final measurements I can update this post.

Viking757, thanks for the measurement, I had suspected 1/8" for thickness from the beginning. Now I need the offset from the upper mounting bolt and the lower mounting bolt. Any chance you can measure that for me? I'm thinking it will be close to 3/8".
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The offset appears to be 5/16. I don't know if the bends are placed to add rigidity or just to clear things sitting behind the plate...
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Re: I'm gonna make SRT triangle Brackets

Well, hopefully (fingers crossed) I get my parts this week and can lower my jeep this weekend. While I'm in there I can take some measurements to see of the bends in the center are for clearance or not.

Thanks for the measurements.
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Re: I'm gonna make SRT triangle Brackets

I just got my sway links today too! It's funny, in california the rubber dries and cracks (like on my rear links), but on the east coast the metal parts corrode first. These links are from NY, 9500 miles off an 2010 and the front links already have rust, but the rubber looks great. I'm thinking a little rustoleum primer and some yellow paint for these bad boys. Then they can match my bilsteins!
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Re: I'm gonna make SRT triangle Brackets

OK, making a cheap bracket is a no go. Point A to Point B is not a flat surface or plane. There are too many little surface bends, offsets and mounting factors to make this cost effective. So I am just going to use my stock wk link in the rear. Thanks for the support.
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Sorry to hear it didn't work out. But it's great to see someone giving it a shot!
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