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lifting the Wk

Contemplating getting a lift kit , probably the RC 2" lift have heard all good things about it.
Some questions I have.
Wheel spacers: are they required/recommended . What ones do you guys suggest
Pinch weld mod: heard of it , what is it, is it required?
Anybody get after market shocks springs when getting the 2" lift ? Recommendations
And install how much have you guys paid for the lift to be installed good at car stuff but this might be a little much for me .



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Re: lifting the Wk

Its all doable bro! Just gotta take the time to do it right
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:56 AM
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Question Re: lifting the Wk

I only have wheel spacers because I can't float rims with adequate backspacing. They keep my tires away from the upper control arm bolt. The wider stance is nice though & if you're gonna go taller, you should probably go wider as well. I'm running Spidertrax 1.5" spacers. They are both hub-centric & wheel-centric. Don't go cheap with spacers, you get what you pay for.

The pinch welds are like long fins on the back of the front fender wells & are covered up by the black liners. Depending on which size tires, there will be some minor rubbing during tight turns. Most seem to just rub through the liner. But for those of us who don't want to risk cutting a tire on it while out on the trail, it can be hammered flat against the fender well.

Its not necessary to get longer rear shocks with a 2" spacers lift, but I wanted the extra suspension travel, so I went with longer Old Man Emu shocks. The front struts are unaffected since the entire assembly gets pushed down.

Did the lift myself, so not sure what is reasonable for an install.
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Re: lifting the Wk

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Everything Crashtown said is right on...

to reiterate and to add...
Wheel Spacers are recommended if you are using a stock rim, especially when using bigger than stock tires on said stock rim.. (which if lifting even 2", you will want bigger tires most likely)...the most common tires size to go with when you have a 2" lift is a 265/70.. you of course don't need to put bigger tires on... But with the lift, leaving the stock 245/65s on looks a little unfinished IMO.
Because of the bigger tire size, you now have 2 options in having your tire clear the bolt on the upper control arm.. option 1. Trim the bolt down a little closer to the thread. (you can do it, but its not always recommended)..option 2.Buy some spacers.. 1.5" inch wheel spacers will widen the stance of your WK bumping the tires out just a tiny bit past your fenders..and getting that wider, more aggressive stance will compliment your new 2" taller look as well as improve your handling.
Depending on what tire you go with, you may or may not have rubbing..if you get any it will most likely only be at full lock.. Not a big deal, but if you're like me, better safe then sorry, do the pinch weld mod.. its not hard and basically costs little to nothing.. doing this will ensure you have 100% clearance of your tires and give you more peace of mind when off road and suspension is compressed... you can search the forum for pinch weld mod help and DIY tutorials..Also, with a 2" lift and the pinch weld mod done, you could even fit 285 tires if you ever want to go bigger than the 265s... probably not recommended if you use your WK as a daily driver as your MPGs will see a drop with tires of that size..especially if you have a 3.7L v6...(you'll see a small drop in MPG even only with a 2" lift and 265, but nothing to get crazy about)
As far as shocks and struts go.. you can go with the stock shocks and struts for a bit.. (I'm actually still running on my stocks with my lift) But a lot of people, and myself at some point soon, go with Bilstein HDs.. they stiffen up the "floaty" feel of the WK when lifted and enhance the ride quality.. you tend to feel the road a bit more and absorb bumps better, so people say...
If you know what youre doing and have a friend with you who knows what they are doing, you can do the lift yourself.. if not.. I think something like a 2" RC lift with the install will probably run you like about 600, but don't hold me to that.. if you did absolutely nothing on your own and went with all the above mentioned at a shop..4 new bigger tires, 4 wheel spacers, the 2" RC lift, the pinch weld mod and 4 Bilsteins, plus the labor.. get ready to be in the ballpark of 2G's. But I would go gradual with your mods..go with the lift.. then when you need new tires, go for the spacers and 4 bigger tires..(or sell your 245s in good shape to help funds for 265s) then if you feel it necessary you can always get new shocks and struts at an even later date...

I know this seems like a TON but it really isnt as much as it seems.. just search the forum for what you need to know some more and also look at some build threads.. find some members that have 2" lifts and any additional mods you are interested in and see if you can gather any info from their build threads or even send them a PM.. everyone here on the forum is willing to help so just do your research and hopefully you can get that WK of yours up there!
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Re: lifting the Wk

I too am debating on the 285 vs. 265

I have the rock krawler 3.5 xfactor lift, 1.5" spacers....right now I have 235/75-17 dueler a/t revo's

I actually already purchased the 265's, but My local shop said they would trade evenup a set of 285's if I wanted

I am currently looking for wheels so i can use the current ones for winters.

anyone have a pic of the 285's on a 2" lift? any experience with this combo?

to the original poster, why did you decide against the 285's??
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Re: lifting the Wk

I have 285's with the 2 inch RC lift. as long as you do really good on the pinch weld you will rarely rub. i dont recommend this big if your a extreme offroader though.

Heres my car domain page with some pictures on it

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/396062...grand-cherokee

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Re: lifting the Wk

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I too am debating on the 285 vs. 265

I have the rock krawler 3.5 xfactor lift, 1.5" spacers....right now I have 235/75-17 dueler a/t revo's

I actually already purchased the 265's, but My local shop said they would trade evenup a set of 285's if I wanted

I am currently looking for wheels so i can use the current ones for winters.

anyone have a pic of the 285's on a 2" lift? any experience with this combo?

to the original poster, why did you decide against the 285's??
The 265s are plenty big IMO.. you could always get something like Duratracs to have an even more agressive tread look... with 285s, I think you will get some rubbing even with the pinch weld.. you need spacers and pinch weld to fit 265s.. so 285s are obviously gonna be tougher to fit.. with spacers, the 265s already bump out past the fenders.. 285s to me, seem too wide.. and any compression of your suspension with a 285 tire, you'll def. be hitting/rubbing some stuff in the wells... just doesnt seem worth it to me with a BB lift. a Modified OME or a Superlift.. sure, go 285 all day.

Just my $0.02 though.
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Re: lifting the Wk

IMO I have ordered and received both RC lift kit and RRO Lift kit and the RC is way better designed. The RRO looks used scratches and unfinished where it was cut and filed. I wish I didn't send the RC lift back. I am now just going to return both and get a super lift im not going to play with company's that send me used stuff after i pay them $560.00. Not only did they send it used or in bad packaging but they didn't send the springs or shocks.
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IMO I have ordered and received both RC lift kit and RRO Lift kit and the RC is way better designed. The RRO looks used scratches and unfinished where it was cut and filed. I wish I didn't send the RC lift back. I am now just going to return both and get a super lift im not going to play with company's that send me used stuff after i pay them $560.00. Not only did they send it used or in bad packaging but they didn't send the springs or shocks.

consider ordering an OME lift from Kolak. I think you will be very pleased with that. Springs and Shocks provide the lift. you will get 3" of total lift front and rear and everyone who has dealt with him have had nothing but great remarks... search the site.. many,many people run this lift and absoutely love it.. for the price and overall offroad performance as well as on road comfort, it cant be beat.

I believe his name is Nick and you can contact him at Kolak@aol.com
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No way thats what i was told before about the other lifts im not going to be a little dog I want to be a big dog ya it might cost more but there is no way im believing everyones opinions after receiving this lift i feel as if the company is a hoax and everyone that supports it is being sponsored look at that last one i can make a better hole then that and i have no metal working experience
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