I am sorry this is so long winded, but I wanted to share as much information about this that I have upfront with folks so they don’t have to “discover” something by having to ask the right questions. Since I have had the Mini Lift on for a while, when I got back from my second tour, I wanted to add a little to it. I was still not quite ready to “commit” to the Superlift yet, maybe in the future, but here is what I came up with. For those who have not read my “Mini” Lift thread, I will post the numbers:
Stock springs:
Drivers’ front spring: 52089766AE
Passengers front spring: 52089764AE
Drivers rear spring: 52089821AD
Passengers rear spring: 52089820AD
Stock Measurements (In inches, as given from the ground to the fender, center of wheel, full tank of fuel):
Drivers Front: 32.5”
Passenger Front: 32.5”
Drivers Rear: 33.25”
Passengers Rear: 34”
Bottom of Front Fascia to ground: 11”
Part of the differences in height I found stems from the fact that the factory apparently has different spring rates for each spring depending what it’s position is on the WK. Example: The Drivers Side has higher rates than the Passengers Side to compensate for the battery and fuel tank. Now my WK has always sat just a smidge (roughly ¼”) higher than any I have been next to stock. Don’t know why. That’s the reason I listed the spring numbers I have. I have the 4.7 Corsair Gen. 2, which rumor has weighs 50-60lbs less than the Hemi. But I also know mine did not come from the factory with the Tow Package, so I may never really know. You will see the effects of this shortly.
Here is the parts list (quantity of how many needed in parenthesis) of the Mini Lift and the resulting measurements (In inches, as given from the ground to the fender, center of wheel, full tank of fuel, gains in parenthesis from stock):
MOOG Front Strut Mount Kit (Includes Upper Coil Isolator) (x2): K160050
MOOG Front Strut Lower Coil Spring Isolator (x2): K160058
MOOG Rear Coil Spring Isolators (Fits both upper and lower) (x4): K160059
Rusty’s WK Front Strut Spacer (x2): RC-STP1-XK-WK
Bilstein Front Heavy Duty Struts (x2): 24-186797
Monroe Rear Load Leveling Shocks (x2): 58646
Drivers Front: 34” (+1.5”)
Passengers Front: 34” (+1.5”)
Drivers Rear: 34.5” (+1.25”)
Passengers Rear: 35” (+1”)
Bottom of Front Fascia to Ground (+2”)
To this I have added the following parts and their measurements are posted the same as above. One caveat is that I intended to remove the Rusty’s spacer, but the shop forgot about it and the RC Lift got put on top. Saved them from having to grind the strut mount bolts, so no wonder it went in so easilyJ And yes, the Clevis bolt still said “NO!” many times it trying to remove it, but I had spent a good couple weeks squirting PB Blaster on those and other bolts in the hope it would be easier than last time. Not a lot, just a few squirts everyday at lunch time on those areas. It came out without destroying the lower control arm and bushing, much to everybody’s surprise. But it did require using a lot of cuss words and patience, followed by more cuss words.
Rough Country 2 Inch Spacer Lift (x1): SKU-664
Rusty’s WK Rear Adjustable Track Bar (x1): RC-TB732-UV
Jeepin’By Al Upper Control Arms (x2): None given-order direct by nomenclature on 4XGurad website.
Monroe Rear Load Leveling Shocks (x2): 58643
Home Depot Zinc Washers in ½” and ¼ “ sizes to make up the difference in narrower upper shock eyelet on the Monroe 58643’s vs. the factory size on the 58646.
Discount Tire Hub Centric rings for my new wheels. Factory hub bore is 71.5mm and the Dick Cepek’s are 83.820mm. They sold me ones that were 71.5mm to 83mm, and they worked just fine.
Superchips Flashpaq for tire size/shift schedule calibration (x1): 3870
Dick Cepek Torque Wheels (x4): 5x127mm bolt pattern 18x8.5” with +20mm offset
Hercules Terra Trac A/T 2 Tires (x4): P265/65/18
New 433Mhz TPMS Sensors (x4): Shop Supplied
Drivers Front: 37.5” (+5”)
Passengers Front: 37.5” (+5”)
Drivers Rear: 37.5” (+4.25”)
Passengers Rear: 38” (+4”)
Bottom of Front Fascia to Ground: 17.5” (+6.5”)
Drivers Front Hub to Fender: 23”
Passenger Front Hub to Fender: 23”
Drivers Rear Hub to Fender: 22.50”
Passenger Rear Hub to Fender: 22.75”
I do not have any other hub to fender measurements from the stock and the Mini Lift to compare. As you can see from the Hybrid Lift numbers, that’s a fairly large increase over stock. I mainly wanted some additional height for larger tires and wheels for a certain look, not what would work best off road. I don’t have much down travel left anymore and you will see that in the photos. I don’t go off road much, and when I do, I take care and don’t get over my head or on my throttle, so I am not too worried about it. I only have 60 miles on this current set-up, and will be reporting back in as the miles accumulate to see what is affected by this much lift without dropping the front diff and using longer front knuckles and the rear not getting lower control arm relocation brackets like the Superlift does. I can say my fuel mileage just running around town has dropped 1.3mpg as I now am getting 14.7-15.0 vs. the 16-16.3mpg I was before. Also, in addition to using the Superchips to correct the speedometer and shift points, I also ran the 91 performance tune with extending out the WOT shift points by 200rpms and the engine redline by the same amount. The difference has been quite surprisingJ As a matter of fact, the throttle tip in is the best it has ever been, and the Jeep drives better power wise than stock, which is fantastic considering the extra weight and lift and so on. I am VERY happy so far with the SuperchipsJ
On with the pics!!!
Stock springs:
Drivers’ front spring: 52089766AE
Passengers front spring: 52089764AE
Drivers rear spring: 52089821AD
Passengers rear spring: 52089820AD
Stock Measurements (In inches, as given from the ground to the fender, center of wheel, full tank of fuel):
Drivers Front: 32.5”
Passenger Front: 32.5”
Drivers Rear: 33.25”
Passengers Rear: 34”
Bottom of Front Fascia to ground: 11”
Part of the differences in height I found stems from the fact that the factory apparently has different spring rates for each spring depending what it’s position is on the WK. Example: The Drivers Side has higher rates than the Passengers Side to compensate for the battery and fuel tank. Now my WK has always sat just a smidge (roughly ¼”) higher than any I have been next to stock. Don’t know why. That’s the reason I listed the spring numbers I have. I have the 4.7 Corsair Gen. 2, which rumor has weighs 50-60lbs less than the Hemi. But I also know mine did not come from the factory with the Tow Package, so I may never really know. You will see the effects of this shortly.
Here is the parts list (quantity of how many needed in parenthesis) of the Mini Lift and the resulting measurements (In inches, as given from the ground to the fender, center of wheel, full tank of fuel, gains in parenthesis from stock):
MOOG Front Strut Mount Kit (Includes Upper Coil Isolator) (x2): K160050
MOOG Front Strut Lower Coil Spring Isolator (x2): K160058
MOOG Rear Coil Spring Isolators (Fits both upper and lower) (x4): K160059
Rusty’s WK Front Strut Spacer (x2): RC-STP1-XK-WK
Bilstein Front Heavy Duty Struts (x2): 24-186797
Monroe Rear Load Leveling Shocks (x2): 58646
Drivers Front: 34” (+1.5”)
Passengers Front: 34” (+1.5”)
Drivers Rear: 34.5” (+1.25”)
Passengers Rear: 35” (+1”)
Bottom of Front Fascia to Ground (+2”)
To this I have added the following parts and their measurements are posted the same as above. One caveat is that I intended to remove the Rusty’s spacer, but the shop forgot about it and the RC Lift got put on top. Saved them from having to grind the strut mount bolts, so no wonder it went in so easilyJ And yes, the Clevis bolt still said “NO!” many times it trying to remove it, but I had spent a good couple weeks squirting PB Blaster on those and other bolts in the hope it would be easier than last time. Not a lot, just a few squirts everyday at lunch time on those areas. It came out without destroying the lower control arm and bushing, much to everybody’s surprise. But it did require using a lot of cuss words and patience, followed by more cuss words.
Rough Country 2 Inch Spacer Lift (x1): SKU-664
Rusty’s WK Rear Adjustable Track Bar (x1): RC-TB732-UV
Jeepin’By Al Upper Control Arms (x2): None given-order direct by nomenclature on 4XGurad website.
Monroe Rear Load Leveling Shocks (x2): 58643
Home Depot Zinc Washers in ½” and ¼ “ sizes to make up the difference in narrower upper shock eyelet on the Monroe 58643’s vs. the factory size on the 58646.
Discount Tire Hub Centric rings for my new wheels. Factory hub bore is 71.5mm and the Dick Cepek’s are 83.820mm. They sold me ones that were 71.5mm to 83mm, and they worked just fine.
Superchips Flashpaq for tire size/shift schedule calibration (x1): 3870
Dick Cepek Torque Wheels (x4): 5x127mm bolt pattern 18x8.5” with +20mm offset
Hercules Terra Trac A/T 2 Tires (x4): P265/65/18
New 433Mhz TPMS Sensors (x4): Shop Supplied
Drivers Front: 37.5” (+5”)
Passengers Front: 37.5” (+5”)
Drivers Rear: 37.5” (+4.25”)
Passengers Rear: 38” (+4”)
Bottom of Front Fascia to Ground: 17.5” (+6.5”)
Drivers Front Hub to Fender: 23”
Passenger Front Hub to Fender: 23”
Drivers Rear Hub to Fender: 22.50”
Passenger Rear Hub to Fender: 22.75”
I do not have any other hub to fender measurements from the stock and the Mini Lift to compare. As you can see from the Hybrid Lift numbers, that’s a fairly large increase over stock. I mainly wanted some additional height for larger tires and wheels for a certain look, not what would work best off road. I don’t have much down travel left anymore and you will see that in the photos. I don’t go off road much, and when I do, I take care and don’t get over my head or on my throttle, so I am not too worried about it. I only have 60 miles on this current set-up, and will be reporting back in as the miles accumulate to see what is affected by this much lift without dropping the front diff and using longer front knuckles and the rear not getting lower control arm relocation brackets like the Superlift does. I can say my fuel mileage just running around town has dropped 1.3mpg as I now am getting 14.7-15.0 vs. the 16-16.3mpg I was before. Also, in addition to using the Superchips to correct the speedometer and shift points, I also ran the 91 performance tune with extending out the WOT shift points by 200rpms and the engine redline by the same amount. The difference has been quite surprisingJ As a matter of fact, the throttle tip in is the best it has ever been, and the Jeep drives better power wise than stock, which is fantastic considering the extra weight and lift and so on. I am VERY happy so far with the SuperchipsJ
On with the pics!!!