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Old 01-23-2013, 08:00 AM
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Re: Monroe load levelers

if he plans on running the 643s he will need a couple washers on the top mount as its narrower than the top mount on the 646s.

no issues with the sleeves on my end. i ran a bead of gorilla glue around the base, the best i could with the spring still on the shock. if they fall, ill just take the spring off and reglue the boot.
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Ant, did you run into these sleeve noise issues at all with the 646s?
nope not a single sound back there.
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Re: Monroe load levelers

So I just read this whole thread. All I have gained is more confusion and a slight head ache and I am no closer to a decision. I was sold on Bilsteins all the way around. But then I started reading this and thought the 646's would be better. But then I dont want any rake and I dont have a lift. So is anyone running the 646's with Bilsteins up front? I do tow so any input is appreciated. UGH this just got so much more complicated lol.
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Re: Monroe load levelers

The best way I can sum it up is this:

The 646's are for stock WK's. Great price, basically maintain factory rake and are perfect for those that tow allot or carry allot a weight in the rear.

The 643 are the same as above but longer which is great for only for lifted WK's.

The only downfall to the MLL is that it will stiffen up the rear.

If you are concerned with the MLL's being to stiff, then the Bilstein HD's are the answer. A much more expensive answer but the best handling shocks IMO and work great even with a BB installed.
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Re: Monroe load levelers

Thats a good summation. I would assume the Bilstein HDs are better for towing than stock?
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Re: Monroe load levelers

The Bilsteins are far superior to stock in every way shape and form.
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The Bilsteins are far superior to stock in every way shape and form.
Perfect!!! Thank you!!!
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Re: Monroe load levelers

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The best way I can sum it up is this:

The 646's are for stock WK's. Great price, basically maintain factory rake and are perfect for those that tow allot or carry allot a weight in the rear.

The 643 are the same as above but longer which is great for only for lifted WK's.

The only downfall to the MLL is that it will stiffen up the rear.

If you are concerned with the MLL's being to stiff, then the Bilstein HD's are the answer. A much more expensive answer but the best handling shocks IMO and work great even with a BB installed.
That is a good summation, and they do definitely firm up the rear nicely. I can have tools, jack, the fellas, and now it feels like normal. I love the way it handles now also. It was scary stiff the 1st day-week, and it eventually went to firm. Since he tows I would go with the Mll's I don't think the bilsteins will help with the tongue weight, and maintaining a steady ride height. I'm assuming he's like me when I go to the track except he's adding a boat, plus gear, and people.
I do have a question also with the Mll's out back what would closely match for the front? I'm thinking the Bilsteins because Monroe sensatrack-reflex may not be good enough, and we all agree stock isn't an option.
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That is a good summation, and they do definitely firm up the rear nicely. I can have tools, jack, the fellas, and now it feels like normal. I love the way it handles now also. It was scary stiff the 1st day-week, and it eventually went to firm. Since he tows I would go with the Mll's I don't think the bilsteins will help with the tongue weight, and maintaining a steady ride height. I'm assuming he's like me when I go to the track except he's adding a boat, plus gear, and people.
I do have a question also with the Mll's out back what would closely match for the front? I'm thinking the Bilsteins because Monroe sensatrack-reflex may not be good enough, and we all agree stock isn't an option.
I pull a car on an open trailer probably three times a year and sleds up north maybe three times a year. So I would rather go the Bilstein route and sacrifice right hide while towing considering its only 2-6 weekends a year. But the extra support while towing the car would be nice, its borderline too much for her, even with the trailer brakes.

Side note, are these the "HD" Bilsteins? http://cart.bilsteinus.com/search/mm.../drivetype=4WD
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The Bilsteins are far superior to stock in every way shape and form.
While Bilstein monotubes are certainly HD, far better off road, for lifts and towing, there is no way they would ever be installed stock. They are just too rough riding. with poor rebound control. Stock twin tube shocks are much smoother, and a lot more comfortable riding and driving, but they wear out in under 50k too.
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I pull a car on an open trailer probably three times a year and sleds up north maybe three times a year. So I would rather go the Bilstein route and sacrifice right hide while towing considering its only 2-6 weekends a year. But the extra support while towing the car would be nice, its borderline too much for her, even with the trailer brakes.

Side note, are these the "HD" Bilsteins? Bilstein, Innovation and High Quality Since 1873
In that case the bilsteins are probably best for you, but I'm not sure which model you would need. I hope someone else will chime in to help you.
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