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Old 07-14-2013, 12:39 AM
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Re: Rotors and Pads - R1 or other??

Update: 635 miles since install. Braking feels good, no fade on mountain trips and the dust is a very light color. Braking is similar to OEM, with maybe a tad less grip when cold and a tad more when hot, and when I say a tad, I mean most people wouldn't even notice. I figure if I get the same quality braking, with a fast bedding and no more black brake dust, this is pretty good.
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Old 07-21-2013, 04:38 PM
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Update: 635 miles since install. Braking feels good, no fade on mountain trips and the dust is a very light color. Braking is similar to OEM, with maybe a tad less grip when cold and a tad more when hot, and when I say a tad, I mean most people wouldn't even notice. I figure if I get the same quality braking, with a fast bedding and no more black brake dust, this is pretty good.
What pads did you get?
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:39 PM
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Re: Rotors and Pads - R1 or other??

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Update: I am @360 miles since install ..., but so far I am happy with the Wagner thermo quiets and R1 Blank rotors.
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Old 07-22-2013, 08:53 AM
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Update: 635 miles since install. Braking feels good, no fade on mountain trips and the dust is a very light color. Braking is similar to OEM, with maybe a tad less grip when cold and a tad more when hot, and when I say a tad, I mean most people wouldn't even notice. I figure if I get the same quality braking, with a fast bedding and no more black brake dust, this is pretty good.
Hello I got the Wagner Thermo pads and new rotors blanks too. I thought the Wagner pads were drive ready? What bedding did you do to the brakes pads. I have been driving slow with light braking so far.

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Old 07-22-2013, 10:19 AM
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Re: Rotors and Pads - R1 or other??

Bedding is the practice of light braking for the first 500 miles to break the pads and rotors in to achieve both quiet braking and maximum grip. I was impressed by this combination, because by 360 miles the feel of the brakes changed, they felt bedded. Typically I stay OEM, which are often semi metallics I believe, but I took a chance after reading these reviews on the Wagner Thermo Quiets, Ceramics, and have been pleased. Sometimes I wish they had more grip. I think they operate at a slightly higher temperature than the OEM pads, because they feel better under heavier use, like mountain driving (Which was were I was having fade with the worn out OEM pads and rotors.). Since I bought the jeep used, I don't know what the OEM pads and rotors feel like new, but the around town and cold braking was better for a single stop. Overall I am happy with this set up, and have no complaints.
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Re: Rotors and Pads - R1 or other??

so far so good...great pedal feel, minimal brake dust and the rotors still look great...no squeaking either
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:46 AM
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Re: Rotors and Pads - R1 or other??

Update: 1200 miles. Cold braking around town is getting better. I am also liking the low dust. By now with the old pads my rear wheels would be covered in black dust!
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Re: Rotors and Pads - R1 or other??

Has anyone tried upgrading the break fluid when changing brake components?

I upgraded mine to a silicon based DOT5 spec, and have heard that it has advantages over DOT3 and DOT4. This choice is also specific to my location (rains a few days a year here, so lesser chance of water getting into the system and getting 'trapped' rather than dissolved). In which case, the benefits of a higher boiling point fluid in a hot climate outweigh the risk of water entering the system and forming 'bubbles' and thus corroding the braking system. I would probably not have made this choice if I lived in a cold/wet climate though ..

btw I am loving the stopping power on the Stillens.
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Re: Rotors and Pads - R1 or other??

I'm thinking of the R1 "blanks" (assuming this means non-drilled) plus ceramic pads also. I don't want more "bite" but I do want less potential for fade and I want to get rid of my warped OEM rotors.
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I'm thinking of the R1 "blanks" (assuming this means non-drilled) plus ceramic pads also. I don't want more "bite" but I do want less potential for fade and I want to get rid of my warped OEM rotors.
I don't have the R1 blanks, but can vouch for the Wagner ThermoQuiet Ceramics. I've had them installed for 15k+, and they are still performing like brand new. I did do the proper bedding procedure for the first 500 miles, but that was more for the new EBC Sport rotors I had installed simultaneously than for the pads themselves. I know people on here flame guys like me who have drilled/SLOTTED rotors, but I couldn't be happier. Not to mention the fact that I got my set of rotors for under $180 shipped back then...
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Re: Rotors and Pads - R1 or other??

About 3000 miles and no fade yet. Ceramic pads do smell different from semi metallics when they get really hot though.... R1 rotors still have the cross grinding marks visible too.
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Re: Rotors and Pads - R1 or other??

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I'm thinking of the R1 "blanks" (assuming this means non-drilled) plus ceramic pads also. I don't want more "bite" but I do want less potential for fade and I want to get rid of my warped OEM rotors.
I just purchased and installed front & rear R1 premium blank rotors. Steve gave me a nice member discount. I paired them with Centric ceramic pads due to budget. So far still in break-in mode but I can feel the difference...it just grabs!
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