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finally got them on, with some new skins, they look awesome, wife says they drive awesome, and it figures it snowed today too, oh well.

just for the know, winters are off, their track was 72.5 inches, these track just a hair over 73 inches, winters were the stock 17 chrome clads wrapped in 245/65/17's, these rims are off a 2013 JK unlimited, wrapped with 255/55/18's

love the look and ready for the spring and summer roads, now only if the weather would be nice...

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Duukiey any suspension mods ? I picked up a set of 18's from a 2010 Sahara to put on my completely stock 05 WK (and I don't want to lift or space) I am now exploring tire sizes. Also what did you do for TPMS ?
 
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I would also like to know how TPMS went for those that switched to Saharas. I put a set on mine that prev owner took the sensors out of. I have been living with the dash light (basic TPM system) but recently bought OEM sensors to put in. Problem is... I only bought 4. I am not sure if the system monitors the spare or not.
Dealer says probably not as my VIN check only shows 4 sensors for my vehicle but WKjeeps says "A sensor is located in the spare wheel if the vehicle is equipped with a matching full size spare wheel and tire assembly" which mine has.

Also saw this at WKjeeps:

Spare tire sensor programming

On vehicles equipped with a Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS), when the spare tire pressure sensor is replaced with a new pressure sensor, a diagnostic scan tool MUST be used to run a routine that will program the new pressure sensor ID into the Wireless Control Module (WCM), commonly referred to as the Sentry Key Remote Entry Module (SKREEM). Please copy the ID number off of the new pressure sensor before installing it into the spare tire. Then follow the programming steps outlined in the diagnostic scan tool for: “Learn Spare Tire Sensor ID” under” Miscellaneous Functions” for the “WCM/Wireless Control Module” menu item as appropriate.

If replacing the WCM, the spare tire must be dismounted from its wheel to access and note the spare tire pressure sensor ID. Then follow the programming steps outlined in the diagnostic scan tool for “Learn Spare Tire Sensor ID” under “Miscellaneous Functions” for the “WCM/Wireless Control Module”? menu item as appropriate. In addition, the placard pressure thresholds must be updated in the new WCM. Go to "Update Pressure Thresholds" under "Miscellaneous Functions" for the "WCM Wireless Control Module" and follow the procedure.


Leads me to believe I have a sensor in the spare and that it is at least registered to the TPM system. I just don't know if its keeps track of the spare psi all the time or if the registration is just in case it gets installed in a driving wheel position.
 
#6 ·
OK, so in my experience the computer does monitor the psi in the spare. It doesn't display it unless you put the spare on and drive for a few minutes for it recognize it is a moving wheel. (as the wheel drives, the temp increases which increases psi, which is how I assume the computer knows that sensor needs to be recognized). That's my theory anyways. Anyways, I figured all this out because when I got my tires mounted, they over inflated the spare to 40 psi. This somehow confused the computer, showing one of the other wheels as 0 psi and the warning light. After adjusting the pressure on the spare down to 33 psi, everything began to work correctly again withing driving for a few minutes. Hope this helps.
 
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Well I don't get individual tire psi as part of the basic tpm system, just an idiot light. It would seem on your advance TPM system, adjusting the spare psi corrected your TPMS error. So maybe the basic system behaves the same. BTW, I did read that the sensors go to sleep mode when not rotating and then wake up when the wheels rotate again.

Ultimately I just decided to bail on the Sahara tires as the spare doesn't fit in the spare tire hanger. (Sahara tires are a bit taller than stock) So since I will be dismounting them to install OEM size, I'll just leave the OEM spare set up in place or maybe spend the extra $ to grab the sensor out of my OEM spare. It's too bad... kinda like the aggressive look of the taller tires. =(
 
#8 ·
You might be able to get that spare in there, but it would be a tight fit. Check out Omlets thread on his build. He modified his tow hitch to get more space for carrying a larger spare.

As for the TPMS, I forget that I have a limited, so I have all the cool gadgets! Thanks for the part about the sensors sensing rotation.
 
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I am doing this also and can't figure out what to do. I have a '07 GC Limited with individual pressure readout. I want to put my Sahara rims with 245/60R18s, I'm sure the sensors are just about dead on the stock GC rims and the ones from the Sahara are a different frequency so I'm trying to decide if I should splurge for new sensors, go with the ones from the current wheels till they die or just live with out it like I do in the Sahara already.
 
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I'm sure you have looked at the pictures in the thread. The wheels fit fine, just clearing the caliper by the thickness of a credit card as they say. I've been running these wheels for over a year and had no problems. My tires are 255/55 r18, which is a little smaller than the 265/60's you have, but I think they will fit. Stock size for an 18" rim is 245/60 r18 if you want to get new tires and be in spec. If I were you, I would mount a wheel with tire on the front and lower it and turn it all the way to the left and to the right while lowered back down. If nothing rubs at lock to lock or withing suspension travel range, you are fine. There is no substitute for doing things yourself, but IMHO from reading other posts in the past, I think those should fit without seeing them. As for TPMS sensors, new ones retail for $115 online, but they may have a newer frequency that can be quirky for some people, but generally works for others. America's tire rebuilt my old ones for like $25 ea. and I've had no problems. Some folks don't trust the rebuilds. I figure if the rebuild fails, I'll check the tire pressure the old fashioned way, I carry a tire pressure gauge whether I need it or not. Also, I live in California where there are lots of tire shops competing for my business, so if I smell ignorance, it has a distinct odor of BS, I politely move on till I find a shop that knows what they are doing. At $50 ea a rebuild, that sounds high, but it's less than $130. Personally I'd save the $80 difference and carry a tire gauge. Ask them what they replace for the rebuild, it should be any rubber pieces & battery I would assume, what else could go wrong? Programming the sensor sounds suspicious to me because unless they have the wrong sensor, the computer will automatically detect and read the new sensors with 10 miles (usually less than 1 mile for me.) Also, tire shops like to over inflate the spare so it doesn't go flat. Insist that all the tires, including the spare are inflated to the same pressure or the computer will get confused and either won't read the tires or give you weird readings (it told me that my right front had no pressure for example). Good luck and don't forget to post pictures for everyone when done.

And regarding Pepboys, they are just covering their butt when they say "It might not fit." With years of experience in customer service, there is always some crazy customer who wants everything to be guaranteed, but for a budget price with used parts. They are just protecting themselves.
 
#14 ·
Great I've done a little reading on them and it seems the tpms should fit the new whees if not I'll do without. Thanks for all the help.

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#16 ·
Well after banging my head over this I've decided to run the full set up, Sahara wheels AND tires, and user a Superchip Flashpaq to reprogram the speedo. 255/70R18s Tire Automotive tire Alloy wheel Rim Vehicle


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#18 ·
I was surprised as well, i always new there was something about the stock wheel i didn't like and that was it. No rubbing yet but haven't flexed it good . I don't plan on wheeling it so not to worried. BTW thanks for the replies.

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#19 ·
Looks great!

I've been running a set of JK wheels and tires on my 06 for over 3 years now. They came off of a 2009 JK and fit perfectly. The wheel sensors synced up perfectly without any issues.

The only rubbing I have noticed is when it is wet out they will squeal on the front fender wells, but not enough to even cut the surface, they seriously JUST touch! Also, when I still had the stock shocks and struts installed, I was able to bottom them out in the front pretty easy when I hit a good dip in the road. That rubbed a little on the inner plastic, but no real damage. Since the bilstein HD's I haven't had that happen again.

Enjoy them! They really complete the look of the Grand Cherokee nicely and I think they look great!
 
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DIY I used duplicolor wheel paint from Pepboys LOL and thank you. I did not paint the inside and the black really brings out the imperfections of the rim. I am a little concerned about the longevity of the paint tho, it was a little cold when I did it and hopefully it hardens up more as it cures. It will be fairly easy to touch up tho and if I give it a couple more coats it will probably do well. Alloy wheel Tire Rim Wheel Automotive tire


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