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Re: stuck with the front in the air

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^ good point.
mine took at least 2 hrs on the pass side, just for that bolt! I ended up using a puller to keep pressure on the clevis(pushing the bolt in) a TON of pb blaster, the torch, and switched between the impact and breaker bar to "saw" back n forth to get the bolt out of the bushing. my arms felt like spagetti afterwards. needless to say it went back together (after being wirewheeled) with a bunch of anti-seize.
On a side note- has anyone found a place to get those bushings by themselves? the dealer only sells bushings IN the LCA's. I got the other LCA bushings at rock auto, but couldnt find those.
Supposedly RockAuto carries the strut-lca bushings now too. But do they need to be pressed into the LCA?

Mine is stuck too. Stuck like a MoFo. Where did yours get stuck?

Is the bolt threaded at the head end? As in, is it threaded into the clevis fork at the head side? I'm dealing with the driver's side at the moment. The head is going front-to-back (head is forward, threaded shaft and nut are at the rear). I got the rear nut off just fine. But the bolt, as you discovered, just will not eff'ing move.

Is it stuck on threads in the clevis itself? On the nut end, or the head end? Or is it just stuck on smooth shaft sides wedged in the clevis fork?

Where did you heat it, on the bolt or on the clevis fork?

The puller putting pressure on the nut threaded end is a fantastic idea. I'll leave mine on there overnight in hopes the pressure will help goose the PB Blaster to working on it....
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Re: stuck with the front in the air

Yup, the clevis on mine is stuck too, but got the strut out without removing the clevis bolt. But I still need to get it out in order to replace the axle.
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Re: stuck with the front in the air

Mine got stuck inside the sleeve of the bushing. I heated the sleeve as best i could without melting the bushing. heated it(to expand),sprayed it(it cool as well as "wick" the oil in) over & over & over....
the only threads are on the nut end, the other end is slightly shouldered IIRC. if you have the new bushings for it,you could just cut the bolt & get a new one, sure would be easier

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Re: stuck with the front in the air

In wailing away at it with a BFH I managed to loosen it from the thread side of the clevis. This has let me turn the head a bit, but it clearly shows that it's stuck inside the bushing sleeves. From the looks of things it's stuck inside of both bushing sleeves. I'm going to try applying some heat tomorrow and see if that persuades it.

So at least I eliminated the concern that there were threads inside the head-end of the clevis bolt. Whew, that's a relief. I'm still screwed, but less than I could be.

It's looking like the bushings are pretty beat up anyway. I might as well replace them. This, I discover, well after it's too late to get any shipped overnight to me, dang.

The bushings look different between front and back, are they? The front one has a collar around it that the back one doesn't appear to have. When I checked Rockauto they don't show a difference, nor does AdvanceAuto (they call for 2 of the same kind). The factory parts list doesn't break them out; the whole LCA is supposed to be replaced! Oy.

If I cut it out I'd still have to find a replacement bolt. I'm holding little hope of the stealership actually having one, or at anything other than an egregious price. There's enough gap at the forward side, between the clevis and the bearing, to get a blade in there. But it'll still be tricky. That and I'd still be left with the remains of the bolt still wedged tight inside the bearing sleeves. What then? Butcher the hell out of them to gouge the bushings to pieces?

Otherwise the job would've been pretty quick. Damn shame a crappy design like this makes it a hugely time consuming hassle. Something less than a dime's worth of anti-seize would surely have prevented. Cheap bastards...
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Re: stuck with the front in the air

you can get all the bushings from rock auto front,rear,and clevis.

this is the one for the rear of the arm


this is for the front-it needs to be pressed out/in


they show MOOG part # K200183 as the "Front Lower Arm To Strut" but they dont have pics of it, and I havent gotten them yet.

HAHA they have these 3 listed as "one of our most popular parts".... can't imagine why
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Re: stuck with the front in the air

Once I got that nut off the clevis bolt, I used an electric impact gun going forward and reverse to loosen the bolt as much as possible, all while hammering away at the bolt with a hammer, and once the bolt slid into the clevis, I used a socket extension put into the bushing so I could hammer on that. It ruined the socket extension and was a pita, but it did work.
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Re: stuck with the front in the air

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you can get all the bushings from rock auto front,rear,and clevis.

HAHA they have these 3 listed as "one of our most popular parts".... can't imagine why
You can also get a whole LCA assembly, that includes all the bushings and ball joint, for $147. I've one coming overnight. I'll try to remember to take some pix of it compared to the factory LCA.
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Re: stuck with the front in the air

Coming down the home stretch... but wait...

RUST has hit one of the calipers pretty hard. Oy. The driver side caliper has got some serious rust issues. Starting with lower caliper pin. Looks to be no lube inside the boot and the pin was seriously gunked up with the rusty remains of what little lube had been there. I scoured it off and lubed it up again, only to notice the caliper pistons have cracked! WTF?

Grrrr.... and this was the last part being reassembled before heading off for an alignment.
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Re: stuck with the front in the air

I've never seen that! Got pics?
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Re: stuck with the front in the air

No pix, more interested in getting it back together.

The cracks in the caliper pistons may not be rust as some of them are 'phenolic' aka plastic. Still a problem though. Don't know if I'll do just the pistons or the whole caliper. The deciding factor may be that getting a caliper with the "JEEP" embossed logo is expensive. Might be worth the effort to just rebuild mine instead. When I pull it off again I'll take pix.
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Re: stuck with the front in the air

Finally got the thing reassembled and aligned.

A side note, make sure you fully tighten the nut on the top of the front strut. Otherwise you have to disassemble the whole spindle again to get at it. Why they insisted on making such a tiny cut-out at the top is a mystery. Had it been large enough for a wrench it'd be a simple matter. But noooooo.... F'you again Chrysler.
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Re: stuck with the front in the air

I opened mine enough for a socket with a die grinder.
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