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Old 05-10-2013, 02:47 PM
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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

i'm going to go with 20" SRT reps, not sure on tires yet lol, I def want it to handle better, all the suspension is original from the looks of it and now has 88k miles on it so i figured i would start picking away at it . Just got my SRT rear sway bar and links in today! I heard from others that just that helps with the handling ?
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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

^^ rear sway definitely keeps the tail in line.
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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

good to know ! I was hoping to get it installed this weekend but it didnt happen
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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

I don't know who started this rear bar only thing, but installing the rear SRT bar without the front one makes for extreme understeer. I ran a rear SRT bar only for a while then added the front and there is a night and day improvement in balance and ride. Understeer is safe compared to oversteer, but no fun to drive, and front tire wear is excessive.
If you want improved handling, I would get new suspension bits first and foremost, then get some good rubber for the stock wheels. Folks seem to want big wheels mainly because it looks cool, but 20's add substantial unsprung weight to each corner, which make it ride and handle worse, brake worse, and accellerate slower. With 20's and old worn suspension, it will be that much worse. Only the SRT comes with the big wheels from the factory since It has the added power, stiff springs, sways and shocks, and no offroad usability.
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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

^ who said not to get a front SRT bar ? you just get the rear one first because the stock one sucks. of course adding the front one as well makes it that much better. he's also doing the suspension first,I was just wondering what type of wheels he was going with.
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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

yeah i'm def getting the front one too, right now i'm just doing my parts gathering and research lol
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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

Since this is THE suspension thread, and I am the first one to install Koni FSD's, (maybe the only one in the US) here is the lowdown, and how they compare to the Bilstien HD. They are hands down superior to the Bilstien HD's, offering much better handling under all conditions and a smoother, more controlled, level ride. The Bilsteins are high pressure, very difficult to compress, and quick to rebound, while the Koni's are the opposite, easy to compress, and then have a slow, controlled rebound. The Bilstiens bounce around on uneven pavement, and sharp impacts are felt going over potholes or manhole covers, where the Koni's absorb the bumps much better, and the vehicle remains level on uneven surfaces. Encountering bumps on high speed corners is no problem, inspiring confidence, whereas the same road would upset the Bilstiens, causing the suspension to bounce, with side to side wallowing.
The FSD's also raise the ride height by maybe an inch or more, so offroading is even more capable, sort of a mini lift. If you are looking for a cushy luxury car ride, the FSD's are not the answer, as these provide a firm, controlled ride. The FSD's are for use with stock springs, or up to 20 mm lower, but nothing more than that or else the dual valving will not operate correctly.
The caveat is they are very expensive, at just under $1k a set, and have to be special ordered from Koni-US. All Koni's are lifetime warranted, and Koni said they should easily go 150k.
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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

So,i read the entire 67 pages lol. Not to much info for CRD GC. I just hope my suspension is the same then all other GC. I already have 20" viper wheels . Will love a drop on mine but i pull a 23 ft boat who weight aroung 6500pds so thats why im scared to go forward. No matter what im going for a set of bilstein HD but my concern is more about coil. Why you guys choose WK eiback coil if you gain no drop at all with the bilstein HD??Not better to keep the stock coil and save for sway bar? I read the eiback srt8 coil are shitty,so maybe the bwoodys are the way to go? Im looking for a 2inch drop and a stiffer ride. Anything to suggest? Thanks.
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So,i read the entire 67 pages lol. Not to much info for CRD GC. I just hope my suspension is the same then all other GC. I already have 20" viper wheels . Will love a drop on mine but i pull a 23 ft boat who weight aroung 6500pds so thats why im scared to go forward. No matter what im going for a set of bilstein HD but my concern is more about coil. Why you guys choose WK eiback coil if you gain no drop at all with the bilstein HD??Not better to keep the stock coil and save for sway bar? I read the eiback srt8 coil are shitty,so maybe the bwoodys are the way to go? Im looking for a 2inch drop and a stiffer ride. Anything to suggest? Thanks.
the only things ive seen on a CRD is a set of stock coils in the front and a set of srt coils in the rear to level it out. throw in a set of bilsteins and you should have a great level ride.
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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

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So,i read the entire 67 pages lol. Not to much info for CRD GC. I just hope my suspension is the same then all other GC. I already have 20" viper wheels . Will love a drop on mine but i pull a 23 ft boat who weight aroung 6500pds so thats why im scared to go forward. No matter what im going for a set of bilstein HD but my concern is more about coil. Why you guys choose WK eiback coil if you gain no drop at all with the bilstein HD??Not better to keep the stock coil and save for sway bar? I read the eiback srt8 coil are shitty,so maybe the bwoodys are the way to go? Im looking for a 2inch drop and a stiffer ride. Anything to suggest? Thanks.
Your suspension should be the same. Viper wheels are cool! If you are towing that much weight, srt eibach and bwoody coils will both bottom out. Dropping a vehicle is a little tricky since drop numbers depend on a few variables. How old are your current coils and shocks? They sag as they age. Do you have 4x2 or 4x4? Lower coils are engineered for 4x4's, so a 4x2 will have less drop. HD bilsteins are for offroad application, so they raise the ride a bit. WK eiback and H&R are roughly 1/8" or 1/4" lower than the SRT coils, but used SRT coils can be found cheap. I paid $60 for a complete set with 29K miles. Also the WK eibach and H&R's offer a progressive spring rate, whereas the stock SRT coils are more linear in their coil rates, which some people like because the progressive coil has both soft and stiff coils that supposedly improve handling and soak the bumps. With HD bilsteins I don't think you will notice the difference, since they are not valved for a lowered ride. In fact the main reason to choose HD bilsteins is that they cost less, a lot less, than the SRT bilsteins, but are durable enough to survive being used on a lowered suspension. Most stock struts/shocks will fail and leak. I suspect that if you use HD bilsteins and a moderate lowering coil, such as SRT stock/WK eibach/H&R, your ride won't be lower much, but it may level out. But you'll have enough travel in the rear you can still tow. I read a post about guy who installed SRT Eibach and helped a friend haul some bags of concrete. Can't remember how much, but 8 bags at 90lbs is about 720 lbs for example. Anyways, the jeep rode all the way home on the bumpstops with the coils fully compressed. As I recall, since I don't tow, 10% of the weight sits on the hitch, so that would be 650lbs on the rear. Just something to think about. THis is the main reason why I did not buy SRT Eibachs. Although, a slammed jeep does look really good...
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