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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

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Unless you're driving part of that off road, why bother using a WK for that? Get something more suited for the task. That or move.
Without spending a ton of money on a luxury diesel, there really isn't much else that will fit a baby seat and a 100+ pound dog.

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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

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Without spending a ton of money on a luxury diesel, there really isn't much else that will fit a baby seat and a 100+ pound dog.
There's PLENTY of other vehicles better suited for that. Tell me you're not dragging an infant in a car seat and a 100# dog along every day... but I get the point, it's the vehicle you already own. I'd just question the sanity of spending money to wreck the WK's handling just to suffer it's crappy mileage, over and over, every day. The gas costs alone are going to be nearly double what just about anything else would incur. I've loved having my WK but would ditch it in a heartbeat if I had to use it to commute a big distance like that, the economics just wouldn't support it.

The factory ride on the WK is pretty decent considering it's a 4WD truck. Not sure you could make it any softer without unacceptably compromising other ride factors. Softer shocks might work. I doubt you're going to find anyone that's gone that route, as that's pretty much the antithesis of owning a WK in the first place!

It might help to run more highway-driving-oriented tires. What kind of rubber is on there now?

How many miles are on it? If the suspension is making noises then it could be due for bushing replacements. My front shocks and lower control arm bushings wore out around 70k, the uppers are shot now at 85k. I think my transfer case bushing may also need seeing-to, as there's a clunk when backing off the gas.
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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

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There's PLENTY of other vehicles better suited for that. Tell me you're not dragging an infant in a car seat and a 100# dog along every day... but I get the point, it's the vehicle you already own. I'd just question the sanity of spending money to wreck the WK's handling just to suffer it's crappy mileage, over and over, every day. The gas costs alone are going to be nearly double what just about anything else would incur. I've loved having my WK but would ditch it in a heartbeat if I had to use it to commute a big distance like that, the economics just wouldn't support it.

The factory ride on the WK is pretty decent considering it's a 4WD truck. Not sure you could make it any softer without unacceptably compromising other ride factors. Softer shocks might work. I doubt you're going to find anyone that's gone that route, as that's pretty much the antithesis of owning a WK in the first place!

It might help to run more highway-driving-oriented tires. What kind of rubber is on there now?

How many miles are on it? If the suspension is making noises then it could be due for bushing replacements. My front shocks and lower control arm bushings wore out around 70k, the uppers are shot now at 85k. I think my transfer case bushing may also need seeing-to, as there's a clunk when backing off the gas.
I think there was some confusion. I wasn't asking how to make it ride like an 80's Cadillac. But I've seen people say how the Koni FSD's make the ride quality way better all while improving handling as well. So if something like FSD's plus some spring combo and sway bars all make the ride smoother than stock, go over bumps better, and still handles better in the turns, that's what I would be looking for. But I just wanted to emphasize that ride quality is first, and not handling otherwise you could simply throw a coil over kit in there with the thickest swaybars and drop it SRT style.

Don't get me wrong, I live in the northeast where it snows a good amount and I live in an area without street lights where trees fall down in the summer and the winter. But how many of us are legitimately off roaring more than we are simply driving around town or commuting? Yet there's a ton of people with lifts. I would love to lift the jeep but I wouldn suffer fuel economy even greater. So without dumping 2000-2500 on AccuAir which apparently rides great and handles well, I was hoping some setup like FSD's plus stock springs or some other springs will simply make it a better ride quality. I understand what you mean about the dog, but it can happen fairly often if you have to take the kid everywhere, and you take the dogs on hikes or to the park regularly.
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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

Hey guys! I've been reading a lot on this thread and I'm pretty tempted to pull the trigger on WK Bilsteins, SRT8 Eibachs and SRT8 Sway Bars.

The earlier pages date back a few years around where it was advised that the SRT8 Eibachs were crap. Now I see that people love them. With that being said, can anyone confirm if you can TOW with SRT8 Eibachs and WK Bilsteins? I would love to have the stance 100% of the time and successfully tow a boat during the summer season. Thanks.
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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

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Hey guys! I've been reading a lot on this thread and I'm pretty tempted to pull the trigger on WK Bilsteins, SRT8 Eibachs and SRT8 Sway Bars.

The earlier pages date back a few years around where it was advised that the SRT8 Eibachs were crap. Now I see that people love them. With that being said, can anyone confirm if you can TOW with SRT8 Eibachs and WK Bilsteins? I would love to have the stance 100% of the time and successfully tow a boat during the summer season. Thanks.
After reading Scott's original post a couple times I decided to put $2,500 on my credit card because my suspension was shot at 117k miles. I ended up opting for the WK Eibachs & WK Bilsteins with the Addco rear sway and Energy Suspension bushings. At the same time I also replaced the rear track bar with a new factory unit and rear sway bar end links with urethane ones. The front got new factory sway bar end links, LCA's & JBA Lowered WK UCA's along with new shock mounts and inner & outer tie rods. Needless to say my WK rides fantastic!

Remember that I had shot factory shocks to begin with. This setup has given me a 1" drop in the rear and .75" drop in the front. I have a 5.7L 4x4 so there was already a lot of weight on the front. I also have 265/60/18's on there right now that are close to worn out that add 1" in sidewall height over the stock Overland size of 245/60/18. I am looking to upgrade to polished 20x9 SRT8 reps and 255/50/20s. This should bring me down about 1/2" over the tires I have now. If I switch to SRT8 Bilsteins I should be able to get another 1/4" or so added to that also.

My Review of the installed parts:

The ride is very much improved. I bought my WK with 80k miles so I really can't comment on how much better than stock the ride is. My stock ride sucked. With the WK Bilsteins there is some bounciness over bumps, when you load the suspension up in the corners and a little floatiness on the highway. I know part of this has to do with my massively wide 265 tires that make turn-in worthless and the 60 series sidewall that adds to bounciness. I am somewhat not happy with the WK Bilsteins and plan to make an upgrade.

I was not aware at the time of purchase that Bwoody made rear LCA's & sway links and a track bar or I would have purchased those instead. I also was not aware that the SRT8 parts would fit the non-SRT WKs. I am trying to decide between the rear SRT8 Bilsteins or the Stage 6 adjustable shocks. I am definitely moving up to the front SRT8 shocks. Anyone want to buy my WK Bilsteins? They only have about 1k miles on them

P.S. I can tow my boat better now because the ass end of the WK used to be too high and I never bought a drop hitch because I knew I would be lowering it. Also, the weight of the boat doesn't make the ass end pitch up under hard braking anymore. Definite improvement
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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

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After reading Scott's original post a couple times I decided to put $2,500 on my credit card because my suspension was shot at 117k miles. I ended up opting for the WK Eibachs & WK Bilsteins with the Addco rear sway and Energy Suspension bushings. At the same time I also replaced the rear track bar with a new factory unit and rear sway bar end links with urethane ones. The front got new factory sway bar end links, LCA's & JBA Lowered WK UCA's along with new shock mounts and inner & outer tie rods. Needless to say my WK rides fantastic!

Remember that I had shot factory shocks to begin with. This setup has given me a 1" drop in the rear and .75" drop in the front. I have a 5.7L 4x4 so there was already a lot of weight on the front. I also have 265/60/18's on there right now that are close to worn out that add 1" in sidewall height over the stock Overland size of 245/60/18. I am looking to upgrade to polished 20x9 SRT8 reps and 255/50/20s. This should bring me down about 1/2" over the tires I have now. If I switch to SRT8 Bilsteins I should be able to get another 1/4" or so added to that also.

My Review of the installed parts:

The ride is very much improved. I bought my WK with 80k miles so I really can't comment on how much better than stock the ride is. My stock ride sucked. With the WK Bilsteins there is some bounciness over bumps, when you load the suspension up in the corners and a little floatiness on the highway. I know part of this has to do with my massively wide 265 tires that make turn-in worthless and the 60 series sidewall that adds to bounciness. I am somewhat not happy with the WK Bilsteins and plan to make an upgrade.

I was not aware at the time of purchase that Bwoody made rear LCA's & sway links and a track bar or I would have purchased those instead. I also was not aware that the SRT8 parts would fit the non-SRT WKs. I am trying to decide between the rear SRT8 Bilsteins or the Stage 6 adjustable shocks. I am definitely moving up to the front SRT8 shocks. Anyone want to buy my WK Bilsteins? They only have about 1k miles on them

P.S. I can tow my boat better now because the ass end of the WK used to be too high and I never bought a drop hitch because I knew I would be lowering it. Also, the weight of the boat doesn't make the ass end pitch up under hard braking anymore. Definite improvement
You are the MAN! Thank you so much for the detailed description. I am leaning toward H&R's now and not the SRT8 Eibachs so based on what you said towing won't be an issue. Sorry you don't like the WK Bilsteins though, but you would have never known if you didn't test them out!
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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

I have put 4,000 miles on this suspension setup so far. I finally got some new tires that don't suck and ride smooth as well as corner nicely after 2 visits to the tire store. I ended up going with Continental Cross Contact LX20s in 255/50/18. It's a 70k mile H-rated tire with good all-season performance. It will work until I get my 20s and another 200 HP

With good tires, the WK Bilsteins still have noticeable bounce over hard bumps and the nose dive, especially around 90 degree turns, is still more than I would like. I'm not looking for sports car handling here but the amount of nose dive I get on these shocks with Eibach springs is just unacceptable.

Things I will be doing that I will report back on in the near future:

-Swap stock front sway bar for SRT bar & bushings
-Bwoody sway links front & rear
-SRT Eibach springs (need to go lower)
-SRT Bilstein front shocks
-SRT Bilstein or Stage 6 adjustable rear shocks (still undecided)
-Bwoody panhard bar
-Bwoody rear LCAs (anyone know if the upper & lower are the same in the rear?)

I also need to install JeepPerf front differential urethane bushings. I drive my Hemi hard and fast and I have driveline clunk at 121k miles.

I am working on setting up the ultimate handling non-SRT WK and when I get done with it, I will write a whole new topic about how much drop I got, how it rides in various scenarios, etc, etc for those that choose to go down the WK suspension rabbit hole after me

Here is a photo of how she sits in my driveway after getting the Continentals put on.


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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

Your tire setup is ~1.75 shorter than stock. If you are trying to fill in the wheel gap I would put at least 275/45/20 on your 20's, then decide if you need the SRT8 eibach springs.

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I have put 4,000 miles on this suspension setup so far. I finally got some new tires that don't suck and ride smooth as well as corner nicely after 2 visits to the tire store. I ended up going with Continental Cross Contact LX20s in 255/50/18. It's a 70k mile H-rated tire with good all-season performance. It will work until I get my 20s and another 200 HP

With good tires, the WK Bilsteins still have noticeable bounce over hard bumps and the nose dive, especially around 90 degree turns, is still more than I would like. I'm not looking for sports car handling here but the amount of nose dive I get on these shocks with Eibach springs is just unacceptable.

Things I will be doing that I will report back on in the near future:

-Swap stock front sway bar for SRT bar & bushings
-Bwoody sway links front & rear
-SRT Eibach springs (need to go lower)
-SRT Bilstein front shocks
-SRT Bilstein or Stage 6 adjustable rear shocks (still undecided)
-Bwoody panhard bar
-Bwoody rear LCAs (anyone know if the upper & lower are the same in the rear?)

I also need to install JeepPerf front differential urethane bushings. I drive my Hemi hard and fast and I have driveline clunk at 121k miles.

I am working on setting up the ultimate handling non-SRT WK and when I get done with it, I will write a whole new topic about how much drop I got, how it rides in various scenarios, etc, etc for those that choose to go down the WK suspension rabbit hole after me

Here is a photo of how she sits in my driveway after getting the Continentals put on.


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The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

Question: So I have a 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo and I want to lower it. I've been reading and doing some research but have come across nothing helpful but this site. The picture of the white cherokee is my desired look how do I get there ? Help.. Thanks
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Re: The complete (05-10) WK Grand Cherokee suspension thread

If it's the white slammed GC you are referring to then you are going to want to go with the BWoodies. I just went with WK Eibachs and Bilsteins and it's lower in the rear but I did not notice any drop in the front, however it's still functional for towing a boat and handles a lot better. The ride is a little more stiff but not unbearable (wife hasn't complained yet). I am unsure if you can still tow with the BWoodies. Here is how mine sits currently:

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Question, can I just change the springs or do I have to change the shocks and struts as well ? I dont know much about cars but I want to drop ot for look.
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