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Re: The "Mini" Lift

For more load carrying capacity without lifing the rear you really need a set of airbags then. Something like a small set of Firestone "Ride-Rite" rear bags that fit into the stock coils. That way, when you load up, you hit the switch to the on board compressor to support the added weight. When unloaded, just hit the bleeder vavle to let out the air.
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Re: The "Mini" Lift

i just dont want the Jeep to have the rake it had when it was stock.

The load levelers sound great but im not sure i want to rake the stance again.
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Re: The "Mini" Lift

Then you would most likely need the air bags then.
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Re: The "Mini" Lift

Update: After the most recent road trip, I have 1K miles on the "Mini Lift" setup. The front did settle 1/4" on both sides, as the they measure 33.75" instead of 34". The rear also settled 1/4" on the drivers side, and once again all measurements, including this one and those in the future were taken with a full tank. Now the rear passengers side still sits at 35", but the drivers side wwith a full tank sits at 34.25" and a hair instead of 34.50". I think the weight of the full tank has throughly "broken in" the drivers side rear Monroe Load Leveler. When the tank is nearly empty, the rear passengers side sits at 35" and the rear drivers side sits at 34.50" and a few hairs now. I don't know how much more if any, settleing is gonna occur, but I am still quite pleased for such a few simple upgrades I got over and inch of lift I will report in after a few more thousand miles have been put on it with more measurments.
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Re: The "Mini" Lift

Does the ride feel balanced with the Steins in front and Monroe's in back?

Do you attribute any difference in height to the new isolators?
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Re: The "Mini" Lift

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Does the ride feel balanced with the Steins in front and Monroe's in back?

Do you attribute any difference in height to the new isolators?
The ride is actually quite balanced. I was surprised given the Senstracs normally have a soft vavleing the first few movments through their travel on other vehicles I have put them on, but I reckon the variable rate coil spring dampens that quite a bit in the Load Leveler configuration. The Bisteins up front made such a dramatic difference it is hard to belive. The only way I can describe the difference is it reminds me of the time I upgraded my sway bars on my Grand AM back in the day, it feels exactly like that, just night and day difference. I do attribute the addtional lift to the MOOG coil Isolaters, but I cannot just say that buy buying them you will get the 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch that I feel they gave me, based soley off the fact that nobody except myself has commented on them vs the stock ones and taken the pictures for visual data. Like anything else, even high quality stuff wears out too, so maybe when the MOOG's have 40-50K on them, they may settle just like the factory ones did, and it would be silly to rip that stuff out every 50K just to replace those, as a person might as well do the shocks/struts while they are at it, which negates going with the Bilsteins and Load Levelers in the first place to me. I can tell you that there is a difference how the MOOG's feel vs the stock ones, like it basically felt the MOOG's were made of a better quality, less compressable material than the factory Isolaters. The point I want to stress is that when I bought my WK used, a very well taken care of one owner, who happened to be a Chrysler Exec. I later found out, with only 42K on it, even then I noticed that my WK sat just a smidge higher than everyone eles around where I live and commute to work. There is a fella next door in our Industrial Park that has a black WK Overland with a Hemi and Tow Package, I still sat maybe 1/4" higher than he did before the "Mini Lift". Hence, I made sure to get factory spring and shock/strut numbers when I did this. You did not notice unless we parked side by side, and my window belt line was higher than his, and there was just a hair more wheel well gap too. Thats why I wanted to stress a "disclaimer" that some people wwho do exactly this may not get the same lift numbers I did. I am very happy with it so far Want I was trying to do is set it up because I see a boat/camper in my future and I wanted the suspension to cope. Then to top it off, I wanted to add just a touch extra and try to re-create the "Up Country Suspension" option that was offered on the WJ Overland. A factory one inch lift or so. I am currently talking to Nathan about that particular badge and having them made so I can complete the "look" with factory "Up Country Suspension" badges.
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Re: The "Mini" Lift

Too cool, I'd love to see Up Country badges for our WK's. I'm sure he could sell a few of those.

Thanks for the feedback on your setup.
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No problem
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Re: The "Mini" Lift

Where did you get the Moog Strut Install kit & isolators, NAPA? Did you have to order them? What's in the install kit?
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Re: The "Mini" Lift

I got all the MOOG Isolaters from Rock Auto. The Install kit is for the front struts that has a new top strut plate, which is case anybody wants to know the pressed in strut plate studs are long enough for the Rustys spacer, and a new upper coil Isolater. All you need is two front install kits, two lower front coil Isolaters, and four rear coil Isolaters-the rears are all the same part number.
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Re: The "Mini" Lift

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I got all the MOOG Isolaters from Rock Auto. The Install kit is for the front struts that has a new top strut plate, which is case anybody wants to know the pressed in strut plate studs are long enough for the Rustys spacer, and a new upper coil Isolater. All you need is two front install kits, two lower front coil Isolaters, and four rear coil Isolaters-the rears are all the same part number.
Thanks again for the info. I have a set of Bilsteins on the way so I'll take a look at my isolators and decide if I want to replace them when I have the Jeep apart.

I do have 87K miles on it so it will be interesting to see what mine look like. Although VA weather is a lot more mild than the D (lived there most of my life )
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When you get it apart I would like to see some pictures of what the factory Isolaters look like at 87K. Thanks
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