Go Back   Jeep Garage - Jeep Forum > Jeep Platform Discussion > Grand Cherokee - WK > Suspension/Brakes/Wheels/Tires

Join Jeep Garage Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
  #25  
Old 12-27-2010, 12:22 PM
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 6.4L SRT8 WK2
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Milner, GA
Posts: 61
Thanks: 4
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 1407
woosch is on a distinguished road
Re: what r the best replacment brake/rotors?

I'll chime in with my $.02..

Coming from a sports car background with lots of racing (myself and crew chief for a couple different SCCA teams), drilled rotors will crack under hard use, the act of drilling the rotor causes stress around the holes and when they get hot cracks form. The exception are the cast holed rotors, but get ready to get your wallet out for a set of those, if the are available for Jeeps. Slotted rotors help clean the pad and minimize pad glazing.

Todays modern pad compounds give off almost no gases, so drilled and slotted rotors are more for looks than any real stopping advantage. Ceramic pads IMHO should be banned, I've never been so scared than when I installed a set on my car and tried to stop... They increase stopping distance dramatically...

Our WK is needing new brakes, I'll be looking at solid rotors and likely Carbotech street pads.
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 12-27-2010, 12:46 PM
lll2for3lll's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2005 3.7L WK
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: North Myrtle Beach, SC
Posts: 6,348
Thanks: 487
Thanked 66 Times in 63 Posts
Rep Power: 469752
lll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: what r the best replacment brake/rotors?

Thanks for that. I'm going to take you advise. What solid rotor do you recommend?
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 12-27-2010, 01:13 PM
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 6.4L SRT8 WK2
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Milner, GA
Posts: 61
Thanks: 4
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 1407
woosch is on a distinguished road
Re: what r the best replacment brake/rotors?

Quote:
Originally Posted by lll2for3lll View Post
Thanks for that. I'm going to take you advise. What solid rotor do you recommend?
Likely either a Raybestos or Centrix heavy duty. I've still got some research to do on them.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 12-27-2010, 02:04 PM
Hitchhiking
My Jeep: 2007 5.7L WK
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: FL
Posts: 673
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Rep Power: 0
TheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond repute
Re: what r the best replacment brake/rotors?

LMAO at all this debate. Seriously on average the typical DD will NOT see a huge difference in braking POWER. The drilling/slotting helps to RETAIN power in high-heat scenarios and the PADS are what give you the stopping power, not the rotor.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 12-27-2010, 06:56 PM
lll2for3lll's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2005 3.7L WK
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: North Myrtle Beach, SC
Posts: 6,348
Thanks: 487
Thanked 66 Times in 63 Posts
Rep Power: 469752
lll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond reputelll2for3lll has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: what r the best replacment brake/rotors?

We, well I, could give a damn about stopping power. I want rotors that do not warp or wear out easy.

I never said anything about stopping power. I'll just run over what ever is in my way.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 12-27-2010, 08:13 PM
4.whoa's Avatar
Senior Member
My Jeep: 2005 5.7L WK
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: ks
Posts: 1,732
Thanks: 46
Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts
Rep Power: 1141545
4.whoa has a reputation beyond repute4.whoa has a reputation beyond repute4.whoa has a reputation beyond repute4.whoa has a reputation beyond repute4.whoa has a reputation beyond repute4.whoa has a reputation beyond repute4.whoa has a reputation beyond repute4.whoa has a reputation beyond repute4.whoa has a reputation beyond repute4.whoa has a reputation beyond repute4.whoa has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: what r the best replacment brake/rotors?

Quote:
Originally Posted by lll2for3lll View Post
We, well I, could give a damn about stopping power. I want rotors that do not warp or wear out easy.

I never said anything about stopping power. I'll just run over what ever is in my way.
Well then why bother,just save your money for ins.
__________________

Build thread:http://www.jeepgarage.org/f14/whoas-...ead-33075.html
Quote:
You think that's quick................heh...wait till I hit 5th! -Sir Mix-A-Lot
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 12-27-2010, 11:50 PM
Hitchhiking
My Jeep: 2007 5.7L WK
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: FL
Posts: 673
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Rep Power: 0
TheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond repute
Re: what r the best replacment brake/rotors?

Quote:
Originally Posted by lll2for3lll View Post
We, well I, could give a damn about stopping power. I want rotors that do not warp or wear out easy.

I never said anything about stopping power. I'll just run over what ever is in my way.
OEM won't wear out easy. you could easily go through 2 sets of pads and just have the rotors machined down for the second set.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 12-28-2010, 07:18 AM
GR33N D3M0N's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: down south
Posts: 5,469
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 14379
GR33N D3M0N has a reputation beyond reputeGR33N D3M0N has a reputation beyond reputeGR33N D3M0N has a reputation beyond reputeGR33N D3M0N has a reputation beyond reputeGR33N D3M0N has a reputation beyond reputeGR33N D3M0N has a reputation beyond reputeGR33N D3M0N has a reputation beyond reputeGR33N D3M0N has a reputation beyond reputeGR33N D3M0N has a reputation beyond reputeGR33N D3M0N has a reputation beyond reputeGR33N D3M0N has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to GR33N D3M0N
I was told that pads wear out faster with drilled/slotted rotors, I suggest oem, or oem quality...good luck!
__________________
MOE
2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo (sold)
2011 Mazdaspeed3 w/tech package
Quote:
Originally Posted by CoopCooper View Post
Herpes is better than a Prius. Lol.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I really hope my next car has brembros and a panorama roof
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 12-28-2010, 07:50 AM
Hitchhiking
My Jeep: 2007 5.7L WK
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: FL
Posts: 673
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Rep Power: 0
TheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond reputeTheAngryMinnow has a reputation beyond repute
Re: what r the best replacment brake/rotors?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GR33N D3M0N View Post
I was told that pads wear out faster with drilled/slotted rotors, I suggest oem, or oem quality...good luck!
only because people with d/s rotors drive like mad men.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 12-28-2010, 08:37 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 845
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Rep Power: 7901
dmsfun has a reputation beyond reputedmsfun has a reputation beyond reputedmsfun has a reputation beyond reputedmsfun has a reputation beyond reputedmsfun has a reputation beyond reputedmsfun has a reputation beyond reputedmsfun has a reputation beyond reputedmsfun has a reputation beyond reputedmsfun has a reputation beyond reputedmsfun has a reputation beyond reputedmsfun has a reputation beyond repute
Re: what r the best replacment brake/rotors?

Quote:
Originally Posted by woosch View Post
I'll chime in with my $.02..

Coming from a sports car background with lots of racing (myself and crew chief for a couple different SCCA teams), drilled rotors will crack under hard use, the act of drilling the rotor causes stress around the holes and when they get hot cracks form. The exception are the cast holed rotors, but get ready to get your wallet out for a set of those, if the are available for Jeeps. Slotted rotors help clean the pad and minimize pad glazing.

Todays modern pad compounds give off almost no gases, so drilled and slotted rotors are more for looks than any real stopping advantage. Ceramic pads IMHO should be banned, I've never been so scared than when I installed a set on my car and tried to stop... They increase stopping distance dramatically...

Our WK is needing new brakes, I'll be looking at solid rotors and likely Carbotech street pads.

X2... I have been road racing for over 20 years, and have seen, and heard the sound of drilled rotors cracking in the pits after they come in from hot lapping. I use Cryostop rotors (tirerack.com) on my other car, as they are treated with LN2, and anodized. I use PFC carbon metallic on one car and ceramic compound on my other one; all ceramic pads are not alike, and I really like the street Akebono's.
__________________
2006 GC Overland QD II
5.7 Hemi, Modern Muscle 85 mm CNC ported TB, Apexi super voltage stabilizer, Billet Tech. Catch Can, Koni FSD shocks/struts, SRT8 sway bars, Cooper AT3's, Amsoil fluids, Diablosport Intune CMR tuned by Hemifever tuning.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 02-22-2013, 06:05 AM
Laredo2006's Avatar
Member
My Jeep: 2006 4.7L WK
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 276
Thanks: 7
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 1404
Laredo2006 has a reputation beyond reputeLaredo2006 has a reputation beyond reputeLaredo2006 has a reputation beyond reputeLaredo2006 has a reputation beyond reputeLaredo2006 has a reputation beyond reputeLaredo2006 has a reputation beyond reputeLaredo2006 has a reputation beyond reputeLaredo2006 has a reputation beyond reputeLaredo2006 has a reputation beyond reputeLaredo2006 has a reputation beyond reputeLaredo2006 has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: what r the best replacment brake/rotors?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAngryMinnow View Post
LMAO at all this debate. Seriously on average the typical DD will NOT see a huge difference in braking POWER. The drilling/slotting helps to RETAIN power in high-heat scenarios and the PADS are what give you the stopping power, not the rotor.
Having said that, would you take the Centric drilled and slotted rotors over the Centric premium rotors (flat surface) for 100$ more?

Are drilled and slotted ok for winter/salty conditions and do they warp more often? And finally do they crack near the holes?
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How to Clean Engine, Brake Rotors and Calipers? WK05 Detailing 5 10-06-2010 10:04 AM
Brake pads and rotors (newbie) mwhjr1988 Wheels/Tires/Brakes 5 08-29-2010 09:07 PM
These Brake Rotors and Pads any Good ? ChrisWk Grand Cherokee - WK 18 04-28-2010 09:23 PM
Two Different Brake Rotors for '99 Model Year? ubiquitousmatt Wheels/Tires/Brakes 5 02-27-2010 09:45 AM
help! cant remove the rear brake rotors Relwarc Troubleshooting/Problems Discussion 11 02-15-2010 10:04 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 - JeepGarage.Org
The Jeep Grand Cherokee Owners Community