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Old 11-28-2014, 05:12 PM
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My dealer said the small plate on the front and the normal plate on the back and I think it looks betterImageUploadedByJeepGarage1417212736.995956.jpg


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Old 11-28-2014, 07:26 PM
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My dealer said the small plate on the front and the normal plate on the back and I think it looks better

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Old 11-29-2014, 07:16 PM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee Blackhawk

^^ Good post SNUKE.

Seems to be an iPhone user thing to do
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Old 11-29-2014, 07:28 PM
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not just iphone, all damn phone owners.
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Old 11-29-2014, 08:18 PM
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Well for some of us older people we are still learning and it's heaps easier to upload with the phone than to do on the normal computer


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Old 11-29-2014, 09:43 PM
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Yep, that is why I posted a helpful tip. Most people they don't realise until shown. You are simply holding the phone as you always would.
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Yeah cheers Steve. At the end of the day I guess no additions are gonna fix it. The GM at the dealership has been understanding but it's either a new tailgate or if it looks odd as in a paint batch differential then it's a new Jeep. A simple bog and spray isn't gonna cut it on a $55k new truck. It may not seem much hidden behind the plates but then again I didn't agree to buy a truck with 2 holes in the bodywork regardless of where they are and if it's not too much of a big deal to the shop then they can have it back. Hopefully it'll teach them not to go self-tapping into vehicles that someone has taken a massive loan out for.



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So dealership has come back and suggested to fill the holes then spray the whole door rather than sand, bog and spray the 2 holes. As they have said they would still have to spray a new door anyway as it arrives with primer and would still show tampering on the hinges.
These things are totally outside my knowledge base and I guess it comes down to personal satisfaction.

My main concern is I'm not actually happy for the jeep to goto a panel beater to get sprayed regardless if it's 2 holes or the whole door plus the time in shop all because they self tapped the license plate into the metal.

What's my standing of getting a total replacement? Can I legally request this seeing as it's a brand new car less than 8 weeks old and that It's not what I thought I was buying and wouldn't have bought it had I know there were holes in the metalwork?

The dealership mentioned if I'm not happy with the re-spray then they'll make the shop re-spray again until satisfied? That is I'd take it to another dealership or professional detailer and get a second opinion I guess.




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Old 12-02-2014, 12:01 AM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee Blackhawk

Personal experience. I visited my Prado in the shop while getting the back door replaced due to minor damage that was "too hard to repair". For some mysterious reason the car is in the back corner with no door on it. The dust from all the surrounding bog work is going inside. Awesome.

Afterwards, there were sanding marks visible in the base coat. The door was repainted and ended up with an excessively thick coating... it was easy to chip the edges.

The insurer didn't want to be involved and left me to deal with the shop... who said it's a professional job, now bugger off.

Later, the tint fails on the rear window and the part of the side windows adjacent to it. Tinter at work asked if I'd wiped them down with something nasty. I didn't use anything I didn't use elsewhere.

Did you enquire if a suitable donor car might be in the pipeline for a door swap? Otherwise, have them prep and paint up a door for you to approve prior to proceeding. I think you'd be pushing it to get a replacement car... but who am I to say!

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Old 12-02-2014, 12:27 AM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee Blackhawk

^^ cheers Steve.

I think I'd rather not have any work done than sanding and re-spraying. Rather not take it in at all, lol.

But having 2 holes in a truck 1km from the beach isn't a good idea so I best do something. I wonder if mine is a one off bodge up or if they've done it to all the Jeeps they've just sold? If they've sold 10+ Jeeps since they started to sell them this quarter then the principle at the dealership would have to be concerned.

I think re-spraying of any kind may, after a period of time with weather elements thrown in, run the risk of mismatch. I guess there's no guarantees that even a new door isn't going to look slightly different after a year or two. Probably best to just fill and spray the holes behind the plate of which the GM originally offered.
My thought on that though is being a lease vehicle, once returned and I take the plates off then there's still a risk it'll show.




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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee Blackhawk

Dallas, being white (non metallic) and and still pretty much brand new any decent panel beating shop should be able to match the paint well and you would not be able to tell the difference.

If the car was a few years old paint has weathered/aged than it would be harder to match up if any panels needed painting etc.

If it was me I would rather they weld up the holes and paint it vs leaving exposed metal, which int he long run will most likely rust and cause bigger issues.
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Dallas, being white (non metallic) and and still pretty much brand new any decent panel beating shop should be able to match the paint well and you would not be able to tell the difference.

If the car was a few years old paint has weathered/aged than it would be harder to match up if any panels needed painting etc.

If it was me I would rather they weld up the holes and paint it vs leaving exposed metal, which int he long run will most likely rust and cause bigger issues.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee Blackhawk

^^ that's what I would want to see. Although GM wouldn't even have that on his cards. So choices are:
1. Get the dealership to do what they suggest/want but risk more ballsup and/or me being unsatisfied with end result
2. Give the Jeep to a recommended panel beater to fix up and go public about the dealership to show/warn other buyers/potential customers.
3. Get a replacement. As it wasn't a fault that's occurred and needs repairing. This was caused then hidden, whether intentionally or by lack of professionalism, by the dealership that wasn't shown to me the buyer.

Two tiny holes that can ruin most peoples perception of a new car. Even though a car loses value as soon as it's driven off the yard, I just feel pished that this ballsup has possibly reduced it further.

Fair trading say regardless of value, if you've paid for something that wasn't obvious when signing the contract then there's reasonable grounds for dispute.
In this case holes/defects caused by the dealership that conveniently for them, where hidden behind a fitted part (license plate and bracket) and failed to make the buyer aware of such defect and shows that buyers fall prey to dealership dishonesty and lack of integrity. Should I have been made aware, I would have not purchased this vehicle.

Any other purchase I would take back for a replacement or a full refund should a defect not be made obvious. Not sure why a new car, which is my biggest outlay within 5yrs, should be any different.

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