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I have been told those fogging headlights is nothing. On the day I collected my car I saw fogging in the headlights. Shannon informed me that that is normal now. These headlights are no longer sealed units. Water can only get into them, and then only fragments, when under high pressure hosing down/washing. The new lights apparrently have a drainage hole hidden underneath and water would not normally enter unless under extreme pressure. The whole purpose of the air hole/drainage is to allow the moisture to evaporate. Shannon said their were faults with the sealed lights because any moisture inside them could not get out. I have noticed mine fog up a bit (like today in Benalla) and then clear again. So who knows. If they are meant to have a drainage hole then they will not need replacing.
That can't be right. They are a 4x4, so wading thru a murky water crossing, water will be able to enter the light, and when it dries up, leaving the muddy residue?

Not only this, but if moisture is allowed to enter the headlight, then corrosion on the electrical terminals is unavoidable.

I'm not disputing what you have been told, however i'm finding it hard to fathom.
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That can't be right. They are a 4x4, so wading thru a murky water crossing, water will be able to enter the light, and when it dries up, leaving the muddy residue?

Not only this, but if moisture is allowed to enter the headlight, then corrosion on the electrical terminals is unavoidable.

I'm not disputing what you have been told, however i'm finding it hard to fathom.
I don't know either but I have now seen the fogging on at least 5 MY14's now so surely they could not have a fault incident running that high. Frad's has fog, mine has fog. I checked 3 others at Werribee and all had fog. I have no idea. Shannon could well be talking through one of those wrong holes for all I know.
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I don't know either but I have now seen the fogging on at least 5 MY14's now so surely they could not have a fault incident running that high. Frad's has fog, mine has fog. I checked 3 others at Werribee and all had fog. I have no idea. Shannon could well be talking through one of those wrong holes for all I know.
Yeah, look, it may well be there for a reason, but it sure doesn't sound right.
Ive always known not to touch the glass of a lamp as the moisture from the oil in your skin will reduce their life, and now, we allow them to sit in water?
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I don't know either but I have now seen the fogging on at least 5 MY14's now so surely they could not have a fault incident running that high. Frad's has fog, mine has fog. I checked 3 others at Werribee and all had fog. I have no idea. Shannon could well be talking through one of those wrong holes for all I know.
The MY14 at Waitara had the same thing - fogged up headlamps - and the guy was only using a bucket and hose. When I saw that I made a mental note to check to see if my MY14 will have the same "fault". I agree with iboughtajeep that a "drainage hole" + mud = blocked hole and stained headlamps. At over $2,000 for headlamps, I surely won't be happy to replace them at my cost.
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You will get very good fitting instructions with the Mopar side steps, it is not hard, just a little bit fiddley It will take probably 1 hour to fit the first one, 1/2 hour for the second. It can be done WITHOUT removing lower plastic body panel (as suggested in instructions)
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee information - Australia

Monday I spent an hour on the phone talking to one of the execs at CJA. They do actually exist and will actually talk to you!

It was all too little too late as the order for the alternate vehicle was all done and dusted. BUT if you can actually have a conversation with a real live person who works for Jeep! Nice man and if anyone would like his name and contact number or his email PM me.

Now the bad news. Be warned, there were several admissions made about "issues" with the supply of parts. What I can't believe is that having had that conversation and all the admission on the part of said CJA exec that "This launch was not handled well, and yes we do need to improve communications with the market place". THERE IS STILL NO BLOODY INFO ON THE 2014 GC ON THE JEEP WEBSITE!!!!

Sorry in some ways that I will not be getting my Jeep, but having finally been able to speak to a senior staff member at CJA, wife and I are more certain than ever that; for people living in regional areas at least, any Jeep product is a gamble.

CJA really don't seem to have their act together. Great vehicle, great concept ,great features for the price and I am sure most of you in larger centres will be happy. However we need parts and service support that can be relied upon, and sorry to say guys but after actually speaking to someone from CJA, you can expect your experience with aftersales to be pretty much what you have experienced with the purchase. The delays, the lack of communication ect, ect, ect,.
They really don't seem to have a clue and to be really amateurish. When we talked about all the bad press on their FB page about supply of parts and dealing with warranty issues the comment back was "Yes well there is no point in denying that a lot of problems have been experienced; we are currently looking at the issues and we are confident that solutions can be found to avoid those issues in the future." Not a response that inspired confidence. My Nissan may not be as comfy or feature packed as the GC we ordered but will never receive, but a combination of dealer service and corporate reputation has won us. Oh and I will proudly display my JeepGarage.org sign on the back window of the Nissan! PM me or email me for those contact details, I decided against posting them publicly but happy to share them out on request.

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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee information - Australia

Ruined headlamp s because of moisture????

Thunk where else glass is used in damp conditions! Moisture doesn't kill glass, nor hot glass. It's a design decision, you either rely on ventilation to clear moisture, or seal t to preserve a known environment -eg light bulbs.

Now when you get moisture in a sealed unit you are well and truly $(:%# ed, the surfaces won't be designed with moisture in mind.
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I know it is only early days but I certainly have no regrets buying this car.
Drove in eco mode and heaps of power. Will try sport mode soon.
Now I am not the right person to review a car due to my limited experience. I would normally never put this sort of money into a car. Far better to re-invest in your business and multiply its power over and over again. However, at the end of the day there comes a day to spoil ones self so hence an MY14 CRD Overland.
AUTOMATED HIGH BEAMS: As stated in a recent post. Now I have these I would never buy a car without them again. So good, and when in a tricky situation with bends and ups & downs etc and concentrating on the road it is a real "safety luxury" to have this feature doing all the work allowing you to concentrate on the road in front.
ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL: Spoilt again. There is no going backwards again now. A wonderful feature still adapting to. Don't feel comfortable putting my trust in it but it certainly did what it was meant to do. When gaining on the vehicle in front too quickly our passengers in the rear seat exclaimed, "are you doing that braking". You could feel the brakes pulling us up quite quickly. One occasion quite steadily, yet smoothly pulled us back from 110Kmph to 93kmph only releasing pressure on the brake as it detected and maintained the same speed as the vehicle to our immediatel front. As soon as I put the RH indicator light on to overtake the accelleration commenced immediately without touch the pedal even when the radar was still shining into the car in front. It knew you wanted to overtake with the indication and immediately commenced that procedure with accelleration. Acceleration only lasted for the period it took to resume 110Kmph. If you moved from your lane without indicating the Active Cruise Control would not release the "holding back" until the angle of your vehicle no longer pointed at the vehicle in front and then accleration commenced again without indication. On an occasion when a car cut in quickly one was tempted to hit the brakes but with nerves of steel kept my foot from the pedal and the Active Cruise Control immediately activated to slow us down firmly but steadily. Because we were travelling on cruise control on highway No. 1 with a speed limit of 110Kmph the entire trip was with the 4 bars. I like to travel with plenty of space from the car in front so I cannot see me using many of the other "distance" indicator bars. The four bars was adequate for 110Kmph but would have liked just another 10 or so metres of spacing. What was my distance, not sure, perhaps 60 to 80 metres. I do not think it was 100 metres.
On normal freeways with 100Km Zones I would still need the maximum distance allowance. I cannot see how I would ever use less than 3 bars on the Active Cruise Control.
CRASH MITIGATION: Sorry but the friends in the back seat pleaded for me not to test that feature.
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I'm thinking of installing mopar side steps on my MY14. I thought of doing it myself and save close on $1k. Does anyone know of a thread or YouTube link that guides through the installation? I only ask as I can't find anything on google.
I came across these today which are 1/3 the price of the MOPAR ones.

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PANO-ROOF. I have read on this site how there is no need for it. Well, sorry to disagree but it is a wonderful feature. We have never had a pano roof before. Neither have our friends in the back seat who now own a brand new Toyota Rav4.
200KM north to Benalla and at about the half way point coming back to Melbourne I asked our friends, what do you think of the Pano. There was hesitation, not really knowing what to say due to lack of comparison. I said, lets close the roof. The reaction was unaminous from all (4) in the vehicle. When you don't have something you "don't know what you are missing". Well after closing the roof over and then re-opening it 4 fuddy duddies from a long gone era just loved the Pano. After experiencing a Pano for 3 hours to close it over felt so closed in. So dark, so restrictive. It was such a pleasure to open it again and allow the light to bathe us. The lightness bounced off all the beautiful features of the light frost interior bringing out the richness in the colours especially the deep chocolate trim which was lost in the cave like environment. Driving in darkness with Pano glass on view was still preferable to the darker, crampyness (if thats a word) of the cover over the glass.
For four persons who have not had Pano's before we are sold on it. What it is like with the glass open not yet experienced.
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Ruined headlamp s because of moisture????

Thunk where else glass is used in damp conditions! Moisture doesn't kill glass, nor hot glass. It's a design decision, you either rely on ventilation to clear moisture, or seal t to preserve a known environment -eg light bulbs.

Now when you get moisture in a sealed unit you are well and truly $(:%# ed, the surfaces won't be designed with moisture in mind.
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3M film?
Apart from all the money I have no regrets. It was nice to set off on a 400Km trip knowing it was in place just to offer that little extra protection. It was a busy day today so will try and take pics and post (through the help of persons like Hymer of course). I am very happy with its appearance. Yes you can see it but then again, each time I walked towards my car I was staring for it. Our friends did not notice it, nor did our other friends at Benalla "Green n Grow" nursery. Yes once you point it out it is easily seen.....but it's like painting the internal wall of a house. When you are doing it you are staring at it and looking for every hairline crack....and yes, you do find them. Once the novelty wears off I am not going to see this film on the car. I just hope it does what all the "blurb says it does and protects my paintwork from being spoilt with roadway usage. God, this car looks good. Because it was such a nice day today the car has not collected too much road grime. Quite a lot of small insects across the front. I will try giving it a wash mid morning to see just how easily this naturally occurring problem is removed. I will be interested to see if the water sheds from the vehicle the way the "internet" video clips depict. I cannot test out the leather/carpet protection yet because there is no way I am going to deliberately soil my leather/carpet to test out the protection. I will report later re the external nano paint protection and internal protection. I will be interested to see how the first wash removes the grime etc from the paintwork and wheels tomorrow.
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