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Shame... But thanks for the feedback. I will do some more searches

Can't seem to find an AT tire in 265/60 R18 apart from the Geolanders that have good reviews... I want an AT as this will also be my wife's ride. I would be happy to hear any suggestions.

Not correct size: firestone destination, Michelin ltx at2, general grabber 2, Pirelli scorpion atr, bfgoodrich all terrain ta, cooper discoverer st Maxx.

Bridgestone dueler at 697 is an option but beaten by the Geolanders on 2 reviews I have seen.

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I have used BS 693, 695 and the Pirelli Scorpion ATR and I am tempted to throw a set of ATR on when my GC is deliveried. The problem is Pirelli AU does not bring in 265/60R18. Group buy from the US?
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:42 PM
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I did, but apparently it's a 3-4 month wait and I really can't afford another 3-4 months after what has already been 6 months with no car.

Shame really as I do love the look of it.
It is possible to supply a limited in July or August, depending on your spec.
Those were both CRDs.

One of the guys in the group had to have a car before June 30, a Petrol Limited.
He should be picking it up today.
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Prado, 127kw power; 410nm torque kakadu $91,000

MY14 184kw power 570nm LTD $65,000

Zamo, why worry about sensors and navsat when they can be easily added.
Navsat are for those that are getting lost and sensors are for those that use "The bump Method" of driving.

Just find a decent dealer who knows what theyre talking about and you will get a far better product.
Your choice anyway but get your priorities right.

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Unfortunately for the driving I do, satnav is a must. I can live without the sensors though. I also thought of getting an aftermarket satnav but I really do want a fully integrated system. This is just my issue.

Saying all that, my hesitation is that if we the people know more about the product than the dealer and HQ, what would happen if a real problem came up. I've just had 2 years of hell with BMW X5 and I don't want to be faced with another lengthy period of problems due to dealer inadequacy's

I will try another dealer though just to see if I can get a limited quickly.

Also just for the record I'm looking at the Prado Altitude and have a client who's the CFO, so I should get a good deal.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee information - Australia

Hi Snuke that's for the info. If I remember correctly its Shannon at Werribee I should talk too?
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The dealer told me it was just a swap over. The tyre pressure cards in the car door sills have the 20 inch wheels at 36 psi and the 18 inch wheels and tyres at 33 psi. I'll check on the info system to see if the tyres are still on pressure and get back.
So a check on the tyre pressure monitoring system after a straight swap of 13 Laredo 18 inch wheels for my 13 Limited 20 inch. The Limited tyre pressure monitoring dash info say 2.8 bar on all tyres when my pressure gauge says 2.65 bar on all tyres. Whichever ( or both) is off calibration, this is fine for picking up one tyre going flat. All we did was swap the 4 tyres and rims on the 2 cars.
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Hi Snuke that's for the info. If I remember correctly its Shannon at Werribee I should talk too?
If you are in Melbourne then yes, everyone says he is helpful.

But those dates were supplied to me by someone who just purchased from City Jeep - Ivy was their contact, Anthony is the sales manager .
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Also just for the record I'm looking at the Prado Altitude and have a client who's the CFO, so I should get a good deal.
If you are not going off road, which the X5 suggests, then I personally would look at a VW before a Prado
Just because of the age of the Prado, similar to us and a Pajero.
While the Prado and Pajero are great cars, they are both old as hell.

Prices for the LandCruiser Prado Altitude start from $68,990 Plus On roads.
That is Overland territory, which of course comes with Sat nav and far more.

Again, personal thoughts, but unless you are doing some serious bush bashing, I canít see value in a Prado these days.
As for knowledge about the cars.
Two points, it varies who you talk to, and this car is so new that they still donít have full details to know exactly what they can and canít do.
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If you are not going off road, which the X5 suggests, then I personally would look at a VW before a Prado
Just because of the age of the Prado, similar to us and a Pajero.
While the Prado and Pajero are great cars, they are both old as hell.

Prices for the LandCruiser Prado Altitude start from $68,990 Plus On roads.
That is Overland territory, which of course comes with Sat nav and far more.

Again, personal thoughts, but unless you are doing some serious bush bashing, I canít see value in a Prado these days.
As for knowledge about the cars.
Two points, it varies who you talk to, and this car is so new that they still donít have full details to know exactly what they can and canít do.
OR ,
just pick a Jeep GC Limited CRD13 as I did, and they are still about. Still a great car to drive, still good off road, has the tailgate upper flapper, still has the chrome side door strips already saving parking door dints, has front recovery points after I fitted an ECB roo bar, brilliant parking sensors and rear camera and hands free voice control everything and awesome sound system. I too had been without a car from time of order December 1 2012 and was not 11 months before. Oh , yes, and a Tom Tom GPS which is great for out in country areas for $200.
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Not to hijack this thread with a tyre debate, but the following information might be interesting to all. The Kumho AT has a load index of 110 and is a V speed rated tyre rated to 240 km/h. I suppose this tyre assists those in Europe where they drive these vehicles at high speed. This discussion of any tyre with a lower rating of weight or speed may indeed render any insurance invalid or even warranty. Now we all know we don't drive at these speeds, but if anyone is going to make a change in tyre configurations, please check with your insurance company first.

For example:
- Kumho AT, load rating 110, speed rating V (240 km/h)
- Bridgestone D697, load rating of 112, speed rating R (170 km/h)
- BF Goodrich AT KO, load rating 122, speed rating R
- Yokohama Geolander, load rating 110, speed rating H (210 km/h)
- Goodyear Silent Armor, load rating 109, speed rating T (190km/h)

If you have an accident and it is decided that the tyre failed and you are under spec for the vehicle, then you render your insurance invalid. I believe you can request an exemption, but best talk to your insurance company to ensure you are ok to make the change.
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee information - Australia

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Good morning all, I am hoping someone here can help me out. I ordered a MY14 Laredo with satnav and front & rear sensor. I've just received a call from my dealer in Melbourne to say they cannot upgrade the 8.4" screen with Satnav nor install the front and rear sensors. Has anyone else ordered this upgrade on a Laredo and been able to actually get it? If so, could you please tell me who was the dealer so I can get my dealer to contact them to sort this out.

On my Vin build sheet for my Laredo it does have "JLPP - GPS Antenna Input" listed so I would tend to believe you should be able to upgrade it to include GPS.
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Not to hijack this thread with a tyre debate, but the following information might be interesting to all. The Kumho AT has a load index of 110 and is a V speed rated tyre rated to 240 km/h. I suppose this tyre assists those in Europe where they drive these vehicles at high speed. This discussion of any tyre with a lower rating of weight or speed may indeed render any insurance invalid or even warranty. Now we all know we don't drive at these speeds, but if anyone is going to make a change in tyre configurations, please check with your insurance company first.

For example:
- Kumho AT, load rating 110, speed rating V (240 km/h)
- Bridgestone D697, load rating of 112, speed rating R (170 km/h)
- BF Goodrich AT KO, load rating 122, speed rating R
- Yokohama Geolander, load rating 110, speed rating H (210 km/h)
- Goodyear Silent Armor, load rating 109, speed rating T (190km/h)

If you have an accident and it is decided that the tyre failed and you are under spec for the vehicle, then you render your insurance invalid. I believe you can request an exemption, but best talk to your insurance company to ensure you are ok to make the change.
See link below to back up butts posthttp://www.coopertires.com.au/index.php?page=load-and-speed-ratings
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If you have an accident and it is decided that the tyre failed and you are under spec for the vehicle, then you render your insurance invalid. I believe you can request an exemption, but best talk to your insurance company to ensure you are ok to make the change.
This isn't true. It's a popular myth that insurance companies will do anything to get out of a claim, but they are governed by law. They would have to show that the tyre was used well outside its specification, and you reasonably should have known that. Ie if you tow heavy, you would be expected to look into specs, same if you drove at 200kmh for extended periods of time.




It's a court case, they certainly can't simply say your insurance is invalid. But obviously, do operate within the specs of both the speed rating and the weight. Rating . He'll anyone overheating a tyre for doing over 170kmh for extended periods in a jeep, bloody well deserves what they get lol

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"Australian Vehicle Standards' rules state that a 4WD manufactured with off road features must have a tyre speed rating of N (140 km/h) or greater. It is not a legal requirement to match the tyre placard's speed rating so long as it is not less than N (140 km/h). The speed rating must be stamped on the tyre"
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