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Old 07-06-2013, 05:59 PM
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Baa Baa... Shaun... What's next .... Buggerin?
Only in New Zealand allypally and anyway would not recommend it. Especially if the exhaust pipe is hot.

I also had to name mine Baa Baaa, Forum member mkmydnr in Darwin got in before me last October and snagged Baa Baa for a number plate. However I will have mine on my Jeep first.
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:18 PM
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Many had asked about the Laredo tyres, they're Michelins as we all first thought, though the spare is a Khumo.



Brake controller will fit in the cubby, more pics in the towing thread.




Re tow hook, Alex at Waitara has ordered some and will have them fitted to a MY14 as soon as they arrive. He will takes pics to show it done and the area with the bodywork off.
SNUKE, did you notice the tyre is also a smaller width too fit in wheel well, + on black steel rim. Not a good look if you have to use it. I usually rotate all 5 tyres on my vehicles, as theres no use having a brand new spare doing nothing. plus if you go to match it with a new one later, you will find they have changed the tyre pattern and cant get one. BURGER.
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:29 PM
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SNUKE, did you notice the tyre is also a smaller width too fit in wheel well, + on black steel rim. Not a good look if you have to use it. I usually rotate all 5 tyres on my vehicles, as theres no use having a brand new spare doing nothing. plus if you go to match it with a new one later, you will find they have changed the tyre pattern and cant get one. BURGER.
Wow! I also wasn't aware of this, thought ' full size spare' meant that the spare was the same as the other wheels. What a pack of penny pinching bastar@! Bet this was a Chrysler Aust decision.
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:34 PM
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SNUKE, did you notice the tyre is also a smaller width too fit in wheel well, + on black steel rim. Not a good look if you have to use it. I usually rotate all 5 tyres on my vehicles, as theres no use having a brand new spare doing nothing. plus if you go to match it with a new one later, you will find they have changed the tyre pattern and cant get one. BURGER.
Yep,id say 10 years ago, that was a given, but I can't remember the last time looked at a spare and it was identical to the std wheels. It's just std these days - spares are for getting you through to the tyre retailer and replacement of the punctured tyre only.

As a result car manufacturers have taken the opportunity to provide more luggage space by speccing down the width of the spare - the market likes more space and is less concerned with the spare, so that's how cars are built.
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Yep,id say 10 years ago, that was a given, but I can't remember the last time looked at a spare and it was identical to the std wheels. It's just std these days - spares are for getting you through to the tyre retailer and replacement of the punctured tyre only.

As a result car manufacturers have taken the opportunity to provide more luggage space by speccing down the width of the spare - the market likes more space and is less concerned with the spare, so that's how cars are built.


In some cars it may have become standard but is hat a reason for us to accept it
My wife's Santa fe has a real interchangeable full size alloy spare
Not some cheap ass tin space saver

My next purchase will be dependent on a FULL size spare if the don't want to supply that with the car then NO deal simple new rule
It is only that we seem to accept these things that they ca get away with it.
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:47 PM
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My 2005 Pajero has a full size alloy on the rear, I doubt it has ever been used in the rotation.

With the exception of one sidewall cut (Falcon) I have always changed tyres in pares so not too concerned.
If it was a full sie spare, even if it's the exact same mag wheel and tyre you still have to then figure out it's rotation after fixing a flat and I am now too soft to bother with that.
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In some cars it may have become standard but is hat a reason for us to accept it
My wife's Santa fe has a real interchangeable full size alloy spare
Not some cheap ass tin space saver

My next purchase will be dependent on a FULL size spare if the don't want to supply that with the car then NO deal simple new rule
It is only that we seem to accept these things that they ca get away with it.
The spare tyre is on a black steel rim - 245 x 65 x 18 in the Laredo - exacty the same outside diameter as the 4 OEM tyres on the alloy wheels. The vehicle won't know it is fitted unless you plan on testing out the ESC - and probably not even then.
It does have a sticker saying 120KPH MAX - but to me that's fast enough anyway.
I don't see it as a biggie.....
And by the way I do have a 5th OEM alloy rim and tyre mounted on our caravan as an extra spare for the Jeep.
And for those that want to put an OEM alloy tyre and wheel in the spare well - it will fit - but it pushes the lid up about 10mm.
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In some cars it may have become standard but is hat a reason for us to accept it
My wife's Santa fe has a real interchangeable full size alloy spare
Not some cheap ass tin space saver

My next purchase will be dependent on a FULL size spare if the don't want to supply that with the car then NO deal simple new rule
It is only that we seem to accept these things that they ca get away with it.
Hmmm, my 2009 Nissan Murano came with a full size alloy spare wheel, one of the reasons I bought it (although I cant remember when I last had to change a flat)....I am looking at the GC Overland as a replacement, I knew it didn't come with an alloy spare but had no reason to believe the steel spare was not the same size as the others.......I know manufacturers are going this way under the guise of less weight, more storage area etc but in my mind it is no more than penny pinching and we should not just accept it, even worse if a full size alloy will not fit in the spare location....just when I had my replacement choice all figured !
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Hmmm, my 2009 Nissan Murano came with a full size alloy spare wheel, one of the reasons I bought it (although I cant remember when I last had to change a flat)....I am looking at the GC Overland as a replacement, I knew it didn't come with an alloy spare but had no reason to believe the steel spare was not the same size as the others.......I know manufacturers are going this way under the guise of less weight, more storage area etc but in my mind it is no more than penny pinching and we should not just accept it, even worse if a full size alloy will not fit in the spare location....just when I had my replacement choice all figured !
It all comes down to what the market as a whole wants. Me, I need a certain height in my load area to get bikes in, i also need flat loading area. In my turbo falcon I needed the set down at the back, so I could reach past the boxes in the set down and access the rear of the boot - I could have had a full size spare for that car for $300, that would have brought the floor up 100mm.

The ford option is probably best, you can have either for a small amount of money, and thus choose space or spare.

Make no mistake, there are lts of people who choose cars on storage space. For offroad, there is lots to be said for the swinging rear door so you can get 2 full size spares in a spot that doesn't take up space.

Presumably, Chrysler jeep figure they get more sales with the choice they have made, so are prepared to lose a few sales to gain many.
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It wasnt a deal breaker, still ordering a Laredo.It will be my first JEEP .But I was dissapointed,as my last couple of Klugers had 19" alloy spares that I got rotated at each service.As I lease, it saves on maintenance costs-which you can get back at end of lease-if lower than bugeted. Have gone for Quadra lift, so hope to get good ride on the crap roads out here.
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