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Old 07-18-2013, 01:22 AM
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For what it's worth, here is my theory on how the ordering process works.
Jeep Australia negotiate "x" amount of vehicles from Jeep USA at an agreed price for a set period, which we might call 1 year.
That quota is spread throughout the year, therefore averaging out per month. Jeep Australia order the makeup of those cars well in advance. They consist basically of the popular whites and blacks, with a smuttering of other colours as well as the various models and engine mixes.
When a dealer takes an order it sits at the dealership until the end of the month. Dealers then all submit their orders to Jeep Australia, who then try to match with incoming cars. If a total match can be found, the car is assigned, and the dealer is advised of the E Number.
If no exact matching, Jeep Australia then try to change a car due for production to the dealers order. If they can do, then a E number is allocated. If not, then it is matched to a car scheduled for production several months in the future. These would be those cars which have non common options, such as interior colours and upgrades. Jeep Aust do not keep an abundance of stock, and have allocations per dealership. Dealers must have a customer to submit an order. Some dealers, wanting stock, tend to submit phantom orders, pretending they have a customer. When the car arrives, they simply tell Jeep Aust that the buyer pulled out for whatever reason, and they then have on hand stock which they can quickly sell. Generally, the dealer must be secretive about this, so the car is not advertised.
Hi Allypally, here is another take on how supply and demand work. Back in the 80's I decided to buy a brand new Range Rover, stock at the dealerships was scarce, most dealers in Sth East Qld had one, two or none on the floor. The Range Rover during that time was locally assembled from kits from England, so why the shortage of stock?
Well this shortage effectively kept the price up as there was little to no discounting from the dealers, so I ended up paying close to full RRP. It was a take it or leave it attitude.

A few years later I met through a friend of mine the national manager for Land Rover Aust ( Range Rover). He freely admitted to me that they had a policy in place to restrict Range Rover product to the dealerships, this kept the price up as demand always exceeded the supply. Good profits were made as the customer had to pay full price.
Makes me wonder today if something a little similar to this is in play? Makes you think, doesn't it?

PS: As a matter of historical interest, the Rover cost me $28,000 back then. It was a four door 3 litre V8 and never let me down in my 10 years of ownership. It was an amazing off road vehicle.
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Old 07-18-2013, 01:34 AM
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Do you find it dips down a bit too far as well? And have you played around and worked out how to change how far it dips?

I like the principal but dipped to far and haven't had a chance to play around .. Or read the manual yet still after 2 weeks
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Old 07-18-2013, 02:58 AM
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I was just reading the latest news reports on the fbt changes and who was quoted as the spokesperson for BMW? None other than Ms Leonre Fletcher - ex Chrysler media spokesperson flunky. She was totally useless at Chrysler denying that there was an issue with the MY12 recovery hooks and sand failures. So I've now got another reason to never "aspire" to a Beemer.

Oh, and my chrome door strip just saved a ding in my door - kid at footy just opened his door and banged into my car - just a bit of paint from the other car on the chrome strip that just rubbed off. Good luck with that MY14 owners!
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I will read the handbook, when they bring it out as a Talking Book. Let your ears do the reading.
Could not agree more, the one i saw on the web site is massive, I don't think I read books that big at school.
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Oh - that sounds a bit different to what I did Aus? I think I might have done it wrong ie: not per the manual (I couldn't find that bit in the manual by the way - which pages - can you remember?), so I just took my cues from the other thread. It seems to work though - I tested it again today.

Also, and no one has mentioned this yet, but I love the wing mirror tilt feature when in reverse. It's a great feature.
I've figured it out (pouring through the manual and also pouring a few wines - wine helps when it comes to manual - all becomes a lot clearer).

Last night when I tested, I did everything that the manual said I should, except I thought that just having Fob #1 or Fob #2 in the cabin activated it.

It doesn't. You need to press (according to the manual) Unlock on the Fob for it to activate.

I quote from page 86:

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'To recall the memory settings for driver two (for example), using the RKE transmitter, press the UNLOCK button on the RKE transmitter linked to memory position 2'
I didn't even click that that is what I was doing last night when approaching the car. We live on a hill in a dark valley and we have no lights so automatically, regardless of vehicle be that WK or WK2, I hit the Unlock button on whatever fob to simply give me light especially tail lights so I don't fall arse over face in the darkness approaching the car.

I never realised that when doing that last night, that was what was actually recalling the memory settings of whatever fob I was testing.

I'm an idiot.

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All you can do is make sure that we all vote liberal as tony has said he will not follow though with this and remember that this is not legislation yet Kick labour out and kick them out hard
My question is why should people get tax benefit just because their work can package their car as a salary sacrifice when they don't even use their car for work?

All other benefits such as health insurance, gym membership and share / stock options all incur FBT so why not cars?

If one genuinely uses their car for work then there is no tax issue to worry about.
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Old 07-18-2013, 05:15 AM
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My question is why should people get tax benefit just because their work can package their car as a salary sacrifice when they don't even use their car for work?

All other benefits such as health insurance, gym membership and share / stock options all incur FBT so why not cars?

If one genuinely uses their car for work then there is no tax issue to worry about.
There might be some administrative issues to deal with though. BOwen was carrying on about 12 month log books instead of the 12 weeks currently as if that was something that could be sorted by an app. Personally I sure as shit don't want to spend even 10 minutes a week doing something I don't currently have to do - especially when I do 25,000km for business and around 5k for pleasure.

So it's not just the statutory method that is being challenged here- it's a general tendency of govt to act before thinking, and not give a flying shit about the admin workload they force onto people in the private sector.

Update - going to Waittara tomorrow afternoon for delivery of limited gc - anyone else from here g ling to be up at Waittara ?
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could any one here please advise what they are paying for a standard limited crd
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My question is why should people get tax benefit just because their work can package their car as a salary sacrifice when they don't even use their car for work?

All other benefits such as health insurance, gym membership and share / stock options all incur FBT so why not cars?

If one genuinely uses their car for work then there is no tax issue to worry about.
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Hi Sparky. How did you track down Laredo owners wanting to sell their rims?
I need 5 rims, + I need to get off road tyres. Look forward to hearing about your impression of the geolanders.
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Buster01,

Been skiing this week so just catching up on your post. My dealer (Mosman, Sydney) uses Matt from Claremont Tyrepower out at Greenacre when customers want to upgrade their rims. Matt had 8 rims when I talked to him (I bought 4 of these). Apparently it is reasonably common for Laredo owners to change for different rims. If you are in Sydney you could give him a call. Matt would also freight them to you with TNT at good rates.

I am hoping to pick up the car next week, and straight to Matt to swap for the geolanders. I will post my first impressions.

Also thanks to posts from others I will be keeping the 'full size' spare (thin) for city. But will also have a real spare for long offroad trips and accept a 1cm lip on the floor. I will post pics next week.

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could any one here please advise what they are paying for a standard limited crd

Hi G6JET,

Given the change in FBT on car, the demand will drop, which means dealers have to drop price if they want to make sale. This is a good news for potential buyer. But a bad news for those who have already bought JGC or signed the sales contract for relatively' high price'. I suggest you wait a few months for the price to drop before approach dealer

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