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I don't think I am having headlight problems. I do not have tinted front windows. Nor is my windscreen tinted more than standard. Are those experiencing problems with tinted windows which could be effecting the amount of light striking the sensor bump in the centre of the dash?
Hey Webbs, I am sure my tinting is same as yours the front side windows have a slight tint, nothing on the windscreen and the back is tinted tonnes.
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Old 08-10-2013, 08:50 AM
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also, Chrysler appear to be accumulating a lot of Uconnect problems. Now we are hearing about the headlights. Then there are the heating problems, my VR button problems, Phone books not working. etc. etc. I am hoping the tech guys on here like Slandl and others who are familiar with computers will post a comment that this will be a simple and inexpensive problem to eventually solve once they know how to re-configure the software......otherwise this is going to start hurting Chrysler Aust both financially and reputationally. (is that a word?).
Hey, I'm not really complaining because this is still a fabulous car but these problems are surely going to tarnish what should be a stunningly strong launch of the MY14. I want this car to knock off Toyota.
Well with my IT knowledge I am not as convinced all these issues are uconnect problems. If it is then there is more to it. The uconnect software as far as I know is the same version on all the current MY14 GC. If it was purely a SW issue then logic speaking we should all have the same issues. The only thing I can think of that may alter this outcome is if certain devices (aircon, lights, VR, etc.) have different firmware versions across the current MY14 GCs. So in short it maybe just a FW issue or a combination FW/SW issue. I am sceptical that uconnect SW is just to blame.
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Hey Webbs, I am sure my tinting is same as yours the front side windows have a slight tint, nothing on the windscreen and the back is tinted tonnes.
if its stock standard then it is the same as mine....which is very dark rear side windows and back but the front side windows and windscreen are very light.
With the intense sunlight of central Australia it is only a matter of time before you consider darker tinting to your front side windows and windscreen. I don't know what that will do to your dash board "bump"?
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Old 08-10-2013, 08:59 AM
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if its stock standard then it is the same as mine....which is very dark rear side windows and back but the front side windows and windscreen are very light.
With the intense sunlight of central Australia it is only a matter of time before you consider darker tinting to your front side windows and windscreen. I don't know what that will do to your dash board "bump"?
Chances are I will look at darker tinting for the front. Of course I will leave the windscreen alone.. Have to I think by law. As for the back I have never had such dark tint.
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If it was purely a SW issue then logic speaking we should all have the same issues. The only thing I can think of that may alter this outcome is if certain devices (aircon, lights, VR, etc.) have different firmware versions across the current MY14 GCs. So in short it maybe just a FW issue or a combination FW/SW issue. I am sceptical that uconnect SW is just to blame.
All Aus cars could be on the same firmware and you will still get varying results. This is not just an auto thing, it is across everything.
As has been posted earlier, it can be as simple as a particular variant of settings and executions that creates a certain negative result.
If you haven't done one of these settings or iterations then you don't end up with the problem.
I see this time and time again with a lot of the electrical items I have.
I just updated the firmware on my Billion router, and for the first time ever I have had several negative issues. Following the Whirlpool thread about it, I seem to be the only one having my particular issues. All have the same hardware, we're all updating to the same firmware, but for some reason there are varying results.
Completely normal, I know it is and that is why if I had a GC now with all of the issues I personally would not be too phased as I know they all seem software/firmware related issues that can be fixed at some point.

Now if it turns out like the Nav BS in the previous models, then no we all go mental.
But you can see the threads about the work been done on Uconnect so there will be resolution.
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Hey Webbs, I am sure my tinting is same as yours the front side windows have a slight tint, nothing on the windscreen and the back is tinted tonnes.
Have additional tint on frontside and passenger windows up to the allowable and not having light problems...

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Old 08-10-2013, 05:56 PM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee information - Australia

Hi All, with those of you experinecing problems with headlight activation / instrumentation dimming, it may pay to look at the settings. On my current ride, I have auto headlights - I can adjust the sensitivity, and the time before the lights are activated when it senses darkness. I believe this would also affect the instrumentation contrast too. As I do not have mine yet, I can only base this on past experience.
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Old 08-10-2013, 06:12 PM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee information - Australia

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All Aus cars could be on the same firmware and you will still get varying results. This is not just an auto thing, it is across everything.
As has been posted earlier, it can be as simple as a particular variant of settings and executions that creates a certain negative result.
If you haven't done one of these settings or iterations then you don't end up with the problem.
I see this time and time again with a lot of the electrical items I have.
I just updated the firmware on my Billion router, and for the first time ever I have had several negative issues. Following the Whirlpool thread about it, I seem to be the only one having my particular issues. All have the same hardware, we're all updating to the same firmware, but for some reason there are varying results.
Completely normal, I know it is and that is why if I had a GC now with all of the issues I personally would not be too phased as I know they all seem software/firmware related issues that can be fixed at some point.

Now if it turns out like the Nav BS in the previous models, then no we all go mental.
But you can see the threads about the work been done on Uconnect so there will be resolution.
Your billion issue could be easily explained by environmental issues. Line SNR, the types of cordless phones you have attached in the house, to the neighbours HAM radio, all this I am sure you know without me saying. Yes it is possible that owners are inadvertently causing some problems, for example the climate control problem may only show up if both sides are within 2 deg of each other. In this case this could get fixed with a simple uconnect (SW) update.

The headlight issue I would not really call a problem as there is an easy fix by having them adjust the sensitivity of the sensor. With the more in-depth issues, I stated before I think some are issues are possibly FW issues on the individual components. These too should be able to get updated with a uconnect update if the uconnect system is designed correctly. If they are not, then they will need to replace them. Regardless I would say that most if not all problems should be able to get fixed. The biggest hurdle to fixing them is an obvious one... Jeep Australia.

Only reason I posted this was because Weber asked for an explanation, I was trying to explain to Webber that not only is there software but each major component has a logic board that has firmware embedded that may be able to get updated. We could go back and forth all day with semantics.. However.. Is there a uconnect problem? Yes, Is the uconnect problem just SW or a combination of SW / FW? Unknown.. Are some issues caused by the user? Unkown.. May HW need to be replaced? Unknown.
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G'Day Chooke, Yes they are the same. I checked the part number on the Mopar website and they are identical... Apart from being over $100 less than RRP.

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Sorry guys. I'm going back to primary school and am going to start all over again because I missed something on the way through.....don't know whether at Primary level, highschool or where. Maybe I chose the wrong language course. I dropped French after Form 2 with a mark of 16%.
Firmware, Line SNR, Logic Board, Firmware embedded, Billion Router, algorithms????
At what point in school was I dozing off or day dreaming. The only reassuring part I could understand were the assurances from you scholars that, "it should all be easily fixed with a software update".
Phew!...thanks for that guys.
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Hi All, with those of you experinecing problems with headlight activation / instrumentation dimming, it may pay to look at the settings. On my current ride, I have auto headlights - I can adjust the sensitivity, and the time before the lights are activated when it senses darkness. I believe this would also affect the instrumentation contrast too. As I do not have mine yet, I can only base this on past experience.
The issue I have is that yes you can set the instruments dimming low which resolves the issue of the headlights coming on during the day, but then the instrument panel is barely readable during the day.
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Hi Iwantanotherjeep,
All this tyre swapping thing that members are doing is amusing me. Is this costing you guys megabucks. I cannot see anything wrong with my Khumo's but then again I am not about to do any rock climbing. Those replacement tyres costing $1688.00 is probably the going price for 20" tyres (as I know 20" are expensive) but is $400.00 a fair trade in. What would it have cost to purchase 20" Khumos? Would they not be worth hundreds and hundreds nore than $400 for 20" tyres? I would have thought it more practical to just use those 20" Khumos and then upgrade to true off road tyres when the steel threads start popping through your Khumos?
Hi Webber

After all the negative comments re Khumos I decided to look into a replacement which would be less likely to give me trouble. Every time i saw a 4WD with Coopers I asked wether they were happy with them and they told me all the rough roads they encountered with no problems. We intend to travel and may hitch a caravan so maybe an Overland is overkill oh and Black will give more trouble but GEEEEE it looks fantastic and drives superbly. I was just responding to a PM question re cost and clearance with guard and I am sure others can do a better deal. Now to look into ambient lighting which I am sure I will need to make a fabulous car even better.
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