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That little piece of info really needs to be hidden from Webber's eyes. If it turns out to be true it sure ain't gonna be pretty down Werribee way.
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Well I wasn't that impressed as I "ordered" a Summit in Feb with the mistaken belief the Overland would match up to the US Summit specs. But now happy enough with what I'll get shortly.
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Hi all,
ECB now have a polished alloy bullbar ready for the MY14. But more interesting is this little snippet .....
"This bar is designed with two integrated recovery points built into the 8mm thick steel mounting system, which can be accessed through the front of the bullbar".
I rang ECB and they confirmed that the tow hooks come built in to the bar.

A picture of the GC & bar can be seen here Jeep Grand Cherokee ECB Alloy Bullbars Nudge Bars Bull Bars Series (MY14 06/2013 on) Overland Models
Awesome Salmo! This is a must for my daily "Roo Run" through Christmas Hills in the dark. My daughter thinks it will make a beautiful car turn ugly but it really is a must in the country.
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Old 08-22-2013, 02:21 AM
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Hi all,
ECB now have a polished alloy bullbar ready for the MY14. But more interesting is this little snippet .....
"This bar is designed with two integrated recovery points built into the 8mm thick steel mounting system, which can be accessed through the front of the bullbar".
I rang ECB and they confirmed that the tow hooks come built in to the bar.

A picture of the GC & bar can be seen here Jeep Grand Cherokee ECB Alloy Bullbars Nudge Bars Bull Bars Series (MY14 06/2013 on) Overland Models
That's pretty slab-ish... is it sitting over the whole OEM front bumper or does that get trimmed? I'm figuring it's an all over style and hence why it's pretty massive. I thoroughly agree with "if you've gotta have it, you've got to have it" though.

From the website: "This bar is designed with two integrated recovery points built into the 8mm thick steel mounting system, which can be accessed through the front of the bullbar." I wonder if they'd just sell me this bit??? One shaped tube running horizontally at mid bumper level and a centre bash plate to allow the lower skirt to be left off. Oh I'd be happy with that!

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That's pretty slab-ish... is it sitting over the whole OEM front bumper or does that get trimmed? I'm figuring it's an all over style and hence why it's pretty massive. I thoroughly agree with "if you've gotta have it, you've got to have it" though.

From the website: "This bar is designed with two integrated recovery points built into the 8mm thick steel mounting system, which can be accessed through the front of the bullbar." I wonder if they'd just sell me this bit??? One shaped tube running horizontally at mid bumper level and a centre bash plate to allow the lower skirt to be left off. Oh I'd be happy with that!

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I think they remove the lower air dam (same as if you are going off road) and then put the bullbar on. You then have a greater entry angle, they also supply different fog lights, standard to all their bars for ease of fitting.

Been looking at the with & without pic's most of the day, I think It is growing on me.......
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My dealers putting them on our overland also. All I did was ask, and the response was a shock yeah no prob. We will do it at the 1k service.
Same.
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noons, If you do any sort of traveling I would recommend getting the 20" swapped. Not sure if your saw my post the other day, where a guy was driving through Alice with a GC and 20" wheels. The guy needed a new tyre fast and by the time he paid air freight it set him back $900.
Hey aus. Would it not be a better deal financially to simply buy a spare 20" tyre to take with you rather than swapping four rims and tyres?.....and then, if you don't need to use that tyre then you have already purchased one of the four you will need when they are worn out and due for a change.
I'm just looking for an excuse to justify keeping the 20" rims because (in my opinion) the rim with 5 spoke profile looks so cool (and mean). How often is one going to find themselves in the middle of nowhere (except you of course) without a spare 20" in the back....and then, if you have an additional spare 20" tyre packed in addition to your spare wheel wouldn't it be "bob's your Uncle"?
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A bar is the difference between some damage to fix later or all the red stuff from the cooling system on the ground. An aluminium bar can still deflect into the panels if a fat roo is on the other side of the argument, but you'll most likely get to drive home.

It's great ECB have put in the work and equally it's a shame that the more able companies like ARB, TJM, etc are not able to offer anything yet.

Aesthetics aside, I concur. If you've got to drive at night in unfenced areas you have to fit a bar... however it looks. For now, that is THE bar!

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With all the chatter about tow bars and with my Overland CRD due early September, I went down to the dealer to ensure he would have a tow bar ready for its arrival and he has been told that the Summit will be in Oz as a limited edition only. Didn't say when. So lets see how reliable a rumour that becomes!!
Yeah, ok guys, I am sort of biting but I have (more or less) got over it now. I am now an Overland owner with the intention of purchasing the new (to be designed) shape in about 5 years which will be a Summit because by then Chrysler Australia will realise they have demand for this vehicle. I will hold off and not buy the first release but will wait for the update on the 1st release about 12 months later to give them time to sort out any errors in design etc. By then my Overland will be 5 years old and I won't mind towing a van into the top end or the Bungle Bungles etc because its new shine will have worn off......and besides, by then I will have a brand new Summit sitting in the garage back home for driving to the theatre in.
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If and when that elusive Summit arrives I will certainly go and look at it to judge what I may have missed out on. But then I will happilly wait for the new shape Summit in a few years time because you can bet it will be a "doozie". We all know X5, Toyotas, Cayennes, Merc's etc. are going to have to lift their game and car shapes to counter our MY14's steeling sales from their dealerships....and, what's the bet Chrysler in Detroit are not already aware of that and preparing a strong defence with the next "shaped" model to prevent the opposition taking back what they will think is their market. That next Summit is going to be something....and I will be ready for it. Besides, how could I even think of being unfaithful to that lovely blonde of mine waiting in the back shed for the next rendezvous.
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A bar is the difference between some damage to fix later or all the red stuff from the cooling system on the ground. An aluminium bar can still deflect into the panels if a fat roo is on the other side of the argument, but you'll most likely get to drive home.

It's great ECB have put in the work and equally it's a shame that the more able companies like ARB, TJM, etc are not able to offer anything yet.

Aesthetics aside, I concur. If you've got to drive at night in unfenced areas you have to fit a bar... however it looks. For now, that is THE bar!

Cheers,
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Your right....it is the best bar. I know someone with one on their Jeep and it is very, very practical. It's just that it turns a "she" with lovely curvacious lines into a "he" with a very square shape. Fortunately, I am in a position now that when I travel interstate etc. I usually put myself off the road and do very little night driving. I learnt not to drive at night (when on a holidayt) unless absolutely necessary. Hundreds of pages ago I outlined how I learnt that your headlights just will not show up all potential road kill. It was on a trip to Alice Springs 25 plus years ago. Lights on high beam. Wife standing guard watching front left. One daughter in rear left watching immediate left, other daughter in rear right watching immediate right and youngest son in rear centre staring to the front between the two front seats. All watching for animals walking out onto the road. It is absolute crap if you think your headlights are going to catch everyone of them. That trip taught me that animals as big as cows just melt into the side of the bitumen and you don't see them until you have passed them. It only takes not seeing one animal to perhaps cause a fatality....so night driving is out for the Webbers, other than domestic driving around home, and that throws up enough kangaroo problems.
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Your right....it is the best bar. I know someone with one on their Jeep and it is very, very practical. It's just that it turns a "she" with lovely curvacious lines into a "he" with a very square shape. Fortunately, I am in a position now that when I travel interstate etc. I usually put myself off the road and do very little night driving. I learnt not to drive at night (when on a holidayt) unless absolutely necessary. Hundreds of pages ago I outlined how I learnt that your headlights just will not show up all potential road kill. It was on a trip to Alice Springs 25 plus years ago. Lights on high beam. Wife standing guard watching front left. One daughter in rear left watching immediate left, other daughter in rear right watching immediate right and youngest son in rear centre staring to the front between the two front seats. All watching for animals walking out onto the road. It is absolute crap if you think your headlights are going to catch everyone of them. That trip taught me that animals as big as cows just melt into the side of the bitumen and you don't see them until you have passed them. It only takes not seeing one animal to perhaps cause a fatality....so night driving is out for the Webbers, other than domestic driving around home, and that throws up enough kangaroo problems.
Previous 4WDs I've had were always barred up but having noted the issues the additional weight can create as 4WDs become less of a "nice truck" and more of a "heavy duty car" I just don't think I can be bothered with the suspension implications. I live in town, so my daily driving doesn't involve roos and the like. Camping... I like to be set up well before dark.

It's hard for me to break the routine of whacking a bar on the car straight away though!

I'd like to see what ARB can do as their style is always top notch, but in steel the weight could be excessive for the front end. 120 Series Prados were cracking due to barwork, and with respect, they're a heavier build than the Grand. TJM usually win the style points in ally bumper replacement type bar, though I have no idea if they're considering the Grand at all. Maybe colour-matched the ECB could sit a little more comfortably on the vehicle?

You're right about lights though Webber. You can improve your odds with more lighting, but that's all. Funny-ish story: I had a roo run into the side of my 90 Series... while stationary! I had seen his mates ahead and stopped, but old mate from the rear/side was travelling too fast to turn sharply, and hit the front quarter at about 45 degrees. Surprisingly, there was no damage to the Tupperware... but given I was looking straight ahead and didn't see him until he acually hit, there was an ever so slight staining of the jockage region

To bar or not to bar??? it's just horses for courses hey

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