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Hi 911,
Sorry about the slow reply, been fishing in the Grampians for a few days.
It the ship site you refer to, Wilhelm, if not I would love the your site. Ta.
If it doesn't roll over probably a bunch of somali pirates will hi jack it.

Hi Salmo,

Here is the link to track your ship, assuming that your Jeep is on the MV Taiko. The website does not track from Satellite, well it does but at a cost. So you will only be able to see tracking when picked up from land based tracking. You can set up a sign on to get auto notification when ever it comes back into range again e,g, Panama Canal then connect to see the web cams on the canal, HD cameras are only clear during daylight hours.

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My CRD was one of the first to hit the roads in OZ and has just over 30,000km in just over 2 years.
I have NEVER had a DFP issue and my office is 3km from home and the car generally does many short runs.
I am not sure if the '14 are different, but I rarely drive for 30mins, but then I do drive with a heavy right foot. my economy is generally in the 13's/100km
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I think they are referring to the use of Eolys additive (more info here Eolysô Fuel-Borne Catalyst for diesel particulates abatement: a key component of an integrated system) to lower the natural particle combustion temperature to assist the regeneration. I am only aware of the PSA group (ie Peugeot CitroŽn) using this system. However both Wynns and Liqui Moly produce a fuel additive (mixed into the fuel not a separate system) that claims to achieve something similar.
Interesting reading - I now have a much better understanding. My earlier comment about reading that the US diesels will have an additive was probably ad-blue, and therefore, as you say, nothing to do with the dpf.
It would be really interesting to have some idea of how long you have before the filter fills up under worst case conditions. eg. If I drive to the kimberlys and the filter is totally cleaned out by the highway speeds, then drive for 2 weeks at nothing but low speeds and 4wd tracks, how likely am I to have a problem? The only reference to this I could find is a quote from a leasing company saying some of its city driving customers were having their dpf workshop cleaned every 6 weeks or so.
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Check out the posts in "The Towing thread"! It's all been done before.
I've read that Bob, but none of the solutions appeal to my wants for fully automatic... so not "all" has been done before

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Interesting reading - I now have a much better understanding. My earlier comment about reading that the US diesels will have an additive was probably ad-blue, and therefore, as you say, nothing to do with the dpf.
It would be really interesting to have some idea of how long you have before the filter fills up under worst case conditions. eg. If I drive to the kimberlys and the filter is totally cleaned out by the highway speeds, then drive for 2 weeks at nothing but low speeds and 4wd tracks, how likely am I to have a problem? The only reference to this I could find is a quote from a leasing company saying some of its city driving customers were having their dpf workshop cleaned every 6 weeks or so.
Thanks, Russell
That would be an interesting guideline Russell, and I'm sure CJA will be rushing to provide us the information "real soon now". Ughh.

It'd also be interesting to know if and what level fast idle could initiate the burn. The Isuzu trucks we modified for the government all had a Force DPF Burn feature, which from memory ran the idle up to 1800 Rpm. The truck's ECU would also initiate a burn via fast idle automatically if the DPF was nearing full. This would occur when the truck was put in neutral, the park brake applied and the foot brake released. The engine was not to be shut down until completed. Everyone went into a spin over the implications... until it was pointed out that there was a DPF gauge on the dash that could be monitored to prevent surprises.

It's disappointing that our CRDs feature not one of these initiatives!

All that said, I think a bit of manual shifting off road could keep things spooled up enough to get the burn done. I'm not going to panic on this one, though it is definitely going to be something to keep in mind.

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Starting to get a bit nervous about the DFP issue. Some car makers appear to have systems / warning lights when the build up is getting high, Jeep just appear to start shutting things down with no prior warning.

Been researching the Net and found that there appears to a link between the quality of oil and diesel you use. I had even got cold feet and looked at a Prado but they have it too, but better pre warnings though instead of just shutting down.

Looks like the expensive Mobil 1 oil is the way to go combined with quality diesel fuels which BP appears to be getting the best reviews backed up material safety data sheets showing lower carbon and ash contents and a higher cetane index.
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Maybe we should organise a group BURN day once a month

I vaguely remember reading somewhere that you can monitor the DPF levels with an OBD2 scanner?
Or am I imagining things?
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Thanks snuke for the cars guide link. But what is a dual mode tailgate? And I think the reference to a full size spare is misleading.
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Maybe we should organise a group BURN day once a month

I vaguely remember reading somewhere that you can monitor the DPF levels with an OBD2 scanner?
Or am I imagining things?
Have been driving at slow speed for a couple of days. Just came back for a 30 minutes drive on M4 to see if regeneration happens. I drove at 100K speed in 5th & 6th gears. Not sure if regeneration happened or not. Difficult to notice any smell on freeway with strong wind.
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Good article, thanks. The article talks about the importance of the highway run after the warning of the filter being almost full. Why then doesn't the Jeep give a warning that the filter is nearly full? Better still, why don't these things have a user control to allow regeneration at any time, rather than rely on a warning - or in Jeep's case, the lack of warning and straight into limp mode? Its all too late now but I wouldn't have touched a diesel had I known all this. It is such a shame. I was planning a 300km off road adventure in December but that is out of the question now, there is no way I would take my family that far off the beaten track and all the irregular speeds that go with it with this hanging over my head.
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Off Rd may actually help to clear DPF depending on terrain and how you drive it. A low gear and high engine rev would help.
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