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Old 12-08-2013, 03:31 PM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee information - Australia

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However, a real guide on the merits of this car would be if former Toyota Landcruiser, Prado, Lexus, Volkswagon Toureg, Mercedes owners etc would come on line and make it known that they have been the owners of those mentioned vehicles etc and can only say "wow, wow, wow" about this vehicle.
Hi Webber,

I was a "wow' person like you when I got my Prado in Feb 2010. The Prado is a fantastic vehicle compared to the Camry I had previously.

I would still have the Prado except for its limited towing capacity which was less than necessary for our new van.

While happy with the Jeep (Laredo CRD with QL and ORAII), I cannot say "wow, wow, wow" like you want.

There are a couple of things I really don't like:
1. The spare wheel and its location
2. The foot operated parking brake

The Prado climate control seems to be more effective and at least retains the settings. No sure what the Jeep is supposed to do but it seems somewhat erratic in what settings it starts from each time.

As well, there was more room in the Prado - the Jeep seems a bit more confined in the front with less width although I am getting used to it now.

The Jeep also seems to be slower in developing power when starting but then explodes like a rocket and really takes off. It is difficult controlling it at very slow speeds like when entering the garage particularly if on a slight upgrade. It is also difficult reversing up our steep driveway. It seems to want to go at full speed or not at all. I am not looking forward to trying to reverse the van into its parking spot - a somewhat difficult manoeuvre which the Prado handled with ease.

Two other issues which have clouded my view of the Jeep are the almost useless reversing camera (standard item) and the parking sensors we opted for. I am still waiting for response from the dealer on what they plan to do to fix these items but am not too hopeful.

Things I like about the Jeep include:
1. Its enormous power - the thing goes like a rocket compared to the Prado.
2. Its fuel economy - better than the Prado by about 2-3 l/100km.
3. the fancy electronics - even on the base model and not available on the lower end Prados
4. the Quadralift suspension - again not available on the lower end Prados
5. It doesn't have the 3rd row of seats taking up space and adding weight like in the Prado.
6. Better value for money than the Prado (so far - hope it stays that way and the car keeps performing with no real faults)

I haven't yet towed with the Jeep as the dealer has only just replaced the tow bar they stuffed up and I am still setting up the necessary wiring for the brake controller and charging.

I also haven't been off road with the Jeep yet. The Prado was a top performer and it always amazed me where that car could go and the relative ease with which it handled most situations. I expect the Jeep will be the same or better - hope I am not disappointed.

Overall, I am happy with the Jeep but given the issues with the camera and sensors, I am sorry I didn't go with the Limited.

While I won't say "wow, wow, wow" like you want - perhaps just a single "wow" will do.
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Old 12-08-2013, 07:35 PM
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OK, back down to earth again. Picked my Jeep up on Friday, couldn't get the Sat Nav to work, well it did but didn't recognise the address I put in to get me back from Laverton then I realised that the default setting for the Satnav had Brazil as the country. Then set to Aussie OK and headed off cautiously over the Westgate Bridge before peak hour.

I found the climate control to be a bit different to the Calais. The Calais seemed to keep a constant temp but it wasn't noticeable. With the Jeep getting bursts of cold air to readjust every now and then. The car was so smooth had to keep watching the speedo. Got home and had a good look over, the build quality was very good, found no issues yet, love the soft leather seats. Set up Iphone with no problems found that the Satnav can be a bit slow to react to your location sometimes and also shows you in the wrong location ie. was in the far left lane on the freeway and the screen showed us being on an on adjacent ramp to the freeway.

Love the car but hate hate hate the foot park brake ! Spent a few hours sitting in the car and working through the controls, still a bit to learn and get used to. Found that it is very unresponsive when first putting the foot on the gas when reversing, had to check that the park brake was not on a few times.

Dealer did as I asked and loaded latest SW. Spent Friday night applying two part paint protection to the Overland. Teflon based product that I had on the Calais and was fantastic keeping clean using the special wash solution in bucket and then chamois dry. The only difference was that it cost me $550 for someone to do the Calais, this time found a website that I could buy the products and applied myself cost was about $170

Things to do :-

  • Purchase some Mobil 1 oil, found a local supplier in Melbourne, going to get my oil changed out at about 5,000kms and have tow bar put on at the same time.https://www.petrogaslubricants.com.a...5w30-4x5l.aspx
  • Get side steps installed - don't like the look of the tube style ones looking for the flat ones any suggestions ?
  • Get some contour carpet mats made up, did so for the Calais to protect the light carpet and worked well, standard Jeep mats don't cover enough area.
  • Carpet protection treatment to front and rear and boot.
  • Clear UV protection for existing tinted windows and tint to balance of glass.
  • Still not sure if I will go with the Summit chrome inserts.
  • Looking at a fully liner for the boot i.e sides, floor and back face of rear seats.
Re the Summit Webber, no I don't regret not changing, can live without directional headlights, liked the Summit wheels though and think the stereo is OK in Overland, a bit down from the Calais, but don't mind the sub, had one put in an upgraded stereo system in the old Camry that I will keep for my shopping centre vehicle, $1k a year for rego and third party insurance for the Camry vs taking the Jeep up and getting it bashed by another car door or shopping trolley. Main deciding factor for me is that I love the light colour interior and you can't get in the Summit.

Will take out for a drive one day this week, at the moment it is parked in the garage, well it is raining in Melbourne at the moment and don't want to get it wet !

A few photos attached after I did the paint protection, paintwork is like glass now.
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Old 12-08-2013, 08:10 PM
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We had a VW R50 back in 2008, and can say it was a great car, the overland is in my opinion in a different category. We took the R50 over to Fraser a few times, but stuck to the beach, and didnt even attempt the inland tracks. Im sure the overland will be fine on the inland tracks. The R50 had much better road handling than the overland, but again, not really comparable. It was a v10, this a v6.....
The R50 was/is very road focussed, not surprised it got stuck on sand, would have been very surprised if it didn't.
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2. The foot operated parking brake
This doesn't annoy me as much as I thought it would.

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The Jeep also seems to be slower in developing power when starting but then explodes like a rocket and really takes off. It is difficult controlling it at very slow speeds like when entering the garage particularly if on a slight upgrade. It is also difficult reversing up our steep driveway. It seems to want to go at full speed or not at all. I am not looking forward to trying to reverse the van into its parking spot - a somewhat difficult manoeuvre which the Prado handled with ease.
We were very surprised by this too, it seems to rev to about 1200rpm with no movement, then launch. I can only guess it is related to hill start assist
I noticed if you take your foot of the brake, the car will NOT start to crawl forward like all other cars with an auto. This seems inline with below.

Hill Start Assist
Hill Start Assist (HSA) aids drivers when starting a vehicle from a stop on a hill by maintaining the level of brake pressure applied for a short period after the driver's foot is removed from the brake pedal. If throttle is not applied within a short period after the driver's foot is removed from the brake pedal, brake pressure will be released.



I was also surprised to be getting wheel spin when trying to reverse our empty horse float on grass. I never had this with the Pajero, in RWD or 4WD. I don't think the tyres are the cause.

The way I found to work around this delay in acceleration when manoeuvring a tow vehicle is to drop it into Low 4WD, then it moves immediately when the pedal is touched. Not ideal, but at least I get the desired control when revering the float.


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[LIST] [*]Get side steps installed - don't like the look of the tube style ones looking for the flat ones any suggestions ?
Have a look at the Side Step forum
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G'day Beggsy, It is this one, http://wk2jeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wk2_2101113.pdf
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Good on you. I am a 'WOW" person too but then I have never been one to put money into cars until this time....and it's all wow, wow, wow. However, a real guide on the merits of this car would be if former Toyota Landcruiser, Prado, Lexus, Volkswagon Toureg, Mercedes owners etc would come on line and make it known that they have been the owners of those mentioned vehicles etc and can only say "wow, wow, wow" about this vehicle. That would be a more realistic guide than someone like me who has only ever purchased second hand cars (in the past) saying how good a car it is...WHICH IT IS. Speak up guys if you are out there. I am sure I am not alone in wanting to hear from you.
I've got a 2005 Cruiser Sahara, owned it since 2011, I'm still waiting on delivery of a CRD LTD, but the test drive was WOW. I'll need to give it a run on some mud tracks and soft sand to see how it holds up against the cruiser, but on the road it feels like a sports car compared to the cruiser.

I'm a little worried about getting some of the niggling issues others have reported, but I don't think they will diminish the driving experience..... hopefully.
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Took a new 430kw 700Nm supercharged GTS for a drive yesterday , now that was WOW or WOW WEE
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Took a new 430kw 700Nm supercharged GTS for a drive yesterday , now that was WOW or WOW WEE
Baxter, but was it in Deep Cherry Red, m8. DCR's are definitely a wow wow factor!!
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I've completed five runs of a minimum 350km towing a full height caravan of around 2800kg generally at 90km/hr in cruise control. The best return was 11.9 l/100km (Adelaide to Robe) yesterday, the worst 13.4 (Cobram to Point Lonsdale). Very happy with the CRD Ltd after 7500km, but need to find better towing mirrors than the stick on Camec ones I'm using.
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Ok I have had my JGC SRT for 10 days so far and no real issues so far.

Have averaged around 11 lts per 100km driving 30% city and 70% Hwy. much better than I thought it would be. Had the paint and interior protection done today at $2000 less than quoted by the dealer. Same stuff just different location. Water just beads off now. Great customer service too.

I am looking for a cargo area protection cover. Big dog!! ( Dog only gets to ride when going on long drives) Bought him a Toyota Echo for beach runs. :-)
I looked at the ones at Trufit Dandenong. Has anyone found some good ones that also protect the sides? Not to worried about price but quality is a must.
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Mine defaults back to 21 degrees no matter what I have set the temperature to, say I set 23 degrees when I restart the car it defaults back to 21 degrees, is this the norm with others?, comments please.
Mine often (maybe 90% of the time) does the reset to 21 on both sides. It also does maybe 10% of the time put the driver seat ventilation on. It has already been back for that to be fixed. It may be related to saving the settings to the key I use, but surely it would happen all of the time or none of the time if it was 'user error'

More research to be done on that when I'm back home...

Currently in Adelaide and just saw a Black 2014 SRT drive past. It had SRT badges on the door just under the Grand Cherokee letters. Rego was something like xx62xk. Is that one of us?
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Mine sits at what ever temperature was set previously. But, the seat ventilation would come on most times I would start the car. This had me puzzled, turn it off, back next I start it. I worked if your press OK to UnConnect screen when the car first starts it will default to what the settings are on that start up screen. If you don't touch OK this startup screen will time out and everything stays the same as the last time you were in the car. Just have to work out the set up of the start up screen. Warren
Interesting theory, thanks. I'll have to see if that's my 'problem' too
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