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Hi all Been on holiday, here is a bit of a summary......... Loaded up the GC nearly up to the roof lining with the back seats laid down, boat loaded with tools and gear hooked up to the towbar, Adelaide to Port Melbourne on a single tank. In Tasmania plenty of driving up & down from the Central Highlands to Hobart & Launceston, sometimes with 4 adults, sometimes with a 7x4 trailer for picking up building materials and furniture. The road is quite windy with 15 & 25 kmh hairpin corners climbing to an altitude of about 1100 mts. Lots of dirt road work with the boat to various fishing locations. Speedo had 1755 kms when we left and 7164kms when we got home = 5409kms for the trip. I had trip computer “A” set for the overall trip and the trip average for fuel consumption showed as 10.90, which I am very happy with. Unfortunately I didn’t keep all my fuel / kms notes, but the last 3 where, 578kms/56lts, 401/43, 743/81. From Latrobe (Tas) to Adelaide with outside temp’s up to 45 deg and A/C on all the way, sitting on the speed limits on a single tank, trip computer showed a range of 100 kms remaining. The only time I had to feather the accelerator a bit on one the hills on the freeway approaching Adelaide. The temp gauge stayed pretty much in the normal range except on that hill where it climbed to about the mark. The Q/L was very good if we had to reverse into the lake to launch the boat, being able raise the car gave a bit more wading depth and tipped the trailer a little bit more, it was also good for hitching & unhitching. Didn’t get to test the skid plates, which I’m not too upset about. Reversing uphill along the gravel drive towards the shack I was getting a bit of wheel spin (didn’t want to pot hole my drive), I found by pushing the button with the picture of the drunk driver on it and disabling the traction control it was fine. I was really impressed how quiet the car is on the bitumen and on the gravel/dirt roads, and virtually no dust found its way inside the car. One thing that was a bit disappointing, the glove box kept partly opening on the right hand side only. I’m glad to report the bulbar worked a treat, nothing was brave enough to jump out in front of the Jeep. The reversing camera isn’t as clear as the one on the Captiva, but it is still pretty good. The grid lines are useful for predicting where the car will travel, but I found it took a bit of getting too when reversing on to the trailer as the centre line marker confuses the view when getting close to the coupling. Once you get used to it, it’s OK, those little dings can occur during that period of time of becoming familiar with it. Love that heated steering wheel after fishing in the snow, might have suggest to ‘Jeep’ that heated foot pedals would be really nice too. No regrets with 18” wheels for the off road work. I also like the altitude, latitude & longitude info. I guessing that once there’s 10-15,000 kms on the clock the fuel economy should improve a bit more. Only having taken delivery the car a couple of weeks before the trip I was quite nervous about if it would behave after reading some of the other forum members experiences. Various different breakdowns hundreds of km’s from home, limp modes, lack of or slow responses from JEEP Aust and some dealers etc. The car was dream ride right from the start, not a hint of trouble (touch wood) it even allowed the wife to drive, talk about tolerant. Overall I think this is a pretty shit hot car.
I had the same issue with backing boat uphill on grass, found that shifting into sand mode sorted it as it locks the rear diff and reduces the traction control intervention.
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Old 02-06-2014, 07:56 AM
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Jan sales results, this includes both Summits that have been sold so far.

SUV Large Segment Winners:

Jeep Grand Cherokee (1,379 – 16.6%)
Toyota Prado (1,024 – 12.3%)
Holden Captiva 7 (993 – 11.9%)
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Jan sales results, this includes both Summits that have been sold so far.

SUV Large Segment Winners:

Jeep Grand Cherokee (1,379 16.6%)
Toyota Prado (1,024 12.3%)
Holden Captiva 7 (993 11.9%)
Yes, and also the 300 took out the win for the large car segment and the Voyager came in third for the people mover one.

All good from a CJD Australia spreadsheet POV I suppose, but it doesn't really translate to service quality or parts availability does it.

It's all very well to celebrate units sold but time will be the teller in regards to service given and parts availability which will in the end, show the true mettle of the manufacturer.
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Old 02-06-2014, 02:31 PM
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The Laredo camera option and the issue as I understand it. Am I correct in saying to my friend (just so I understand it in my own mind) that if you option up to the back-up camera, that CJD Australia and dealerships are not supplying the following OEM parts as supplied by Milous' post as below:

Instead, they are supplying subpar camera's that have been sourced from who knows where (although I have read and do understand that some camera's sourced from China for $20 odd bucks seem to be quite fine) but that's beside the point.

Does anyone have the parts listed from Milous installed, operational and are happy with?

Or have I become thoroughly confused and lost the plot?
In short, the camera on the Laredo is not an option, it was advertisd as standard equipment by Jeep Australia. Customers were all told it would be the same as the Limited and Overland minus the active gridlines.

Those parts listed by Milious is what should have been on the vehicle and are on the Limited and Overland. Instead they chewed a hole in the handle and stuck a crap camera in it.
Jeep Australia should have spent theb $200 and done it properly.

Perhaps your friend could stipulate to the dealer that the above parts be used. I would be doing that now if buying.

Basically Laredo owners (que violins) are the victims of buying a vehicle sight unseen.
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Potentially stupid question (that may or may not have been previously answered but I can't find it) and also this doesn't affect me but am asking on behalf of a friend.

The Laredo camera option and the issue as I understand it. Am I correct in saying to my friend (just so I understand it in my own mind) that if you option up to the back-up camera, that CJD Australia and dealerships are not supplying the following OEM parts as supplied by Milous' post as below:
First of all, the camera is not an option. It is standard on Australian Laredos.

Correct, those part are not being fitted. My dealer claimed that they don't fit.
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Instead, they are supplying subpar camera's that have been sourced from who knows where (although I have read and do understand that some camera's sourced from China for $20 odd bucks seem to be quite fine) but that's beside the point.
Correct. The cameras fitted are subpar. However, the cameras fitted apparently do have a Jeep part number so they are being supplied by Jeep Australia.
There appear to be some differences in the cameras supplied. Early cameras had grid lines but were off centre My camera has no lines. At least one person on this forum had a camera fitted that seemed better than others.
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Does anyone have the parts listed from Milous installed, operational and are happy with?

Or have I become thoroughly confused and lost the plot?
There is a thread on reversing cameras.
Rear View Camera in Laredo?
At least one person in America has fitted these parts. We are currently waiting for him to get the car reflashed to recognise the camera and he is writing up an installation report. As soon as this is published and assuming it all works, my dealer will be getting another call!
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Thank you Bigskiddy and A10. Much appreciated.
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I had the same issue with backing boat uphill on grass, found that shifting into sand mode sorted it as it locks the rear diff and reduces the traction control intervention.
I had a similar issue reversing up gravel to hitch the trailer. The initial engage of acceleration was jerky and I was worried to hit. Switching to low 4 worked a dream. Didn't even need the accelerator anymore, just inched using the brake.
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SNUKE: Thanks for the figures. I am amazed you are still standing by the two Summit sales. A very poor outcome for the Summit in Australia.

SJandL: Stunning sales results for the the Grand Cherokee in Australia but you are spot on. Chrysler Australia could blow the best opportunity they have had in years if they do not smarten up their after sales service and the parts inventory. It is a real disgrace and puts in jeopardy all the good work they have done in designing the MY11 to MY14. It is common knowledge that people have being chosing Prado because of it's known excellent reputation for parts virtually anywhere in Australia. You need to buy a car knowing if it breaks down you can get going again without having to wait months whilst Chrysler Aust import your parts in via snail mail. If Chrysler Australia don't remedy this they will lose this knewly found sales achievement over Prado because the word will soon spread that Chrysler Australia are stilll CRAP wih back up service. At the end of the day you simply cannot buy a car that is off the road, regardless of where you are in the country, for weeks or months due to a very poor spare parts inventory (including windscreens). I purchased this car ignorant of that information but if I were to start falling victim of these problems it would certainly sour my thoughts of re-purchasing a Chrysler vehicle when the time came. PLEASE STEP UP TO THE MARK Chrysler Australia if you do in fact monitor this site. Don't blow it yet again.
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Agree with you. I really should have placed an order for my next car before Xmas, but I'm holding off. I had my share of dramas with my MY12, and more than two years down the track recovery hooks are still unresolved, limp mode, cameras etc etc are just turning me off. So I'm probably going to extend my lease and see what happens over the next 6 months - maybe till the MY15 rolls around. Maybe ill buy a slightly used Disco. So I may well become a one time Jeep owner unless JA get their crap sorted.

JA might be selling up a storm at the moment but I'm not sure it is sustainable.
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New to this forum and I am looking for some advice - is there a way to subscribe to threads on here?
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you can subscribe just by posting, there is also "Forum Tools" at the top that allows you to also subscribe
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Battery voltage.

Mine is 13-14. Is it low or normal.

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