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Old 03-13-2014, 04:43 AM
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Happy to if people are interested.. Would love suggestions on where to go!
You don't where you're going?

I can't help you with regards to Australia.

Now if you were heading to the 'Shaky Isles' ie: NZ - I could come up with numerous suggestions for an outstanding trip but OZ, no sorry - can't help.

I'm sure though that other's here will give you some great suggestions.
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Old 03-13-2014, 05:19 AM
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Re: 2014 Grand Cherokee information - Australia

I know that Armorall has a bad rep when it comes to quality, but here is a new item which you may find interesting, especially those out of towners.
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Old 03-13-2014, 05:24 AM
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The dealers that use Castrol use OEX Professional 5W-30 that is not available for retail, however a web search will find a data sheet and it does meet C3.
My understanding is that the oil that the dealers use does not have to meet MS 11106, but the oil needs to be approved for use by Jeep HQ. for those of us that change our own oil, I prefer to have that spec met so there is no "wriggle room" in regard to warranty.
Interesting Swampy... thanks heaps. Funny no one at the dealerships I rang seemed to know this.

I appreciate you settling me straight, though I did ask both dealers whether the Castrol was a special supply available only to the industry. What a waste of time talking to them!

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Old 03-13-2014, 05:39 AM
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Castrol Edge Professional OE-X 5W30

http://www.tds.castrol.com.au/pdf/11...79_2013_01.pdf

It'll be interesting to see the drum in the workshop

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Hello All , I have been reading this forum on and off for a few weeks now and it has been an education to say the least. I have also read the thread on the diesel Grand Cherokee on the Australian Caravaners forum, which I sure a lot of you know of and contribute to.
I have been researching for a new vehicle to fit my requirements for a vehicle that will occasionally tow and see some sand (sometimes at the same time!) but mostly do the more mundane task of providing daily transport. I made the assessment that a MY14 JGC Limited with Q/L in Red with beige interior was the car for me. After taking my wife to the dealership to get her valued input, we walked away having ordered a MY14 JGC Overland in white with beige interior!

Information assembled from various contributors to this forum (and contributors to the caravaners thread) will assist us in setting up our vehicle for its role. Thanks for the good information, problem sharing and solutions.

We now wait for delivery. Ordered mid January. VON provided mid Feb. Awaiting further info. I may ask Milous to track....

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Your going to love the colour combination. Looks so prestigious. You may have noticed that beige often finds itself in Mercs, Beamers etc.
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Old 03-13-2014, 05:52 AM
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My first 2 services used Shell - BUT - since the base formula for Sheli Helix Ultra Extra 5W30 was changed in 2012 it doesn't meet the specification either.
I have email confirmation from Shell Tech Services Melbourne on this.

And I agree with Barboots - as far as I can find out - Mobil 1 Formula ESP 5W30 is the only oil available to us out here that carries MS11106.
I've used this for the last 3 and supplied my own oil for all 5 changes to date.
Interestingly the Shell Australia 2013 Product Guide states that it meets "Chrysler MS1106", not MS11106. Is this a typo by Shell or a different specification altogether.

It does state on Page 317 of the Jeep Grand Cherokee Operating Information book "...such as...Shell Helix or equivalent. "

It's all too hard..I'll just live in ignorance.
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Thanks for the welcome and the advice. I WILL now ask Milous to track and provide the spec sheet. I definitely do not want a black interior, but a colour 'mistake' to red will be OK by me but my wife will have a fit.

Sorry to read yours is delayed by a simple mistake that should not happen in this day and age. When did you order and when do expect delivery now?

Gr8Ness
Remember, whilst DCR does look great you would need to keep it very clean because unfortunately the ones I see look more like a dull red or brown when they are not kept perfectly clean. I suppose a bit like black cars which look smart to carry the President or Prime Minister but not when dirty. I wonder if that is why we usually see the PM getting into a White Commonwealth car on the Tele.
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Old 03-13-2014, 06:12 AM
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I know that Armorall has a bad rep when it comes to quality, but here is a new item which you may find interesting, especially those out of towners.
Applying Armor All Custom Shield - Supercheap Auto Australia
This is Plasti Dip in a different can, although Plasti Dip is about $30 per can from Autobarn.
I was thinking of doing a pink plasti dip treatment on part of the wheels. But their pink is too bright.
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Interestingly the Shell Australia 2013 Product Guide states that it meets "Chrysler MS1106", not MS11106. Is this a typo by Shell or a different specification altogether.

It does state on Page 317 of the Jeep Grand Cherokee Operating Information book "...such as...Shell Helix or equivalent. "

It's all too hard..I'll just live in ignorance.
rather than clog up this thread - here's a link from some time back when a few of us early CRD owners were first grappling with the fact that dealers were filling with any old "one size fits all" oil
CRD oil on special
and here's one of my posts from that thread (I was back and forward with emails to Shell TS Melb. and the date was 19/10/2012) - nothing has changed…

"Well the situation hasn't improved.
progress report from email received from Shell Technical Services today.......
"Hi John,
It appears you bought old and new product formulations off the same shelf. The current (since Feb 2012) formulation for Helix Ultra Extra 5W-30 does not claim any formal ACEA specifications (including C2 & C3) or Chrysler MS-11106 specification (including some other OEM’s). There was a change from a formulation developed in XHVI (that carried an ACEA claim), to a new formulation in Yubase/PAO that uses a different additive.

At the moment, we don’t currently have a product on which we can claim Chrysler MS-11106.(To Claim MS-11106 you need to meet MB 229.51 + the TEOST test.)

If you require follow up information on your query, please quote the reference number for your case from the subject line of this email."

and my immediate return email.....

"Thank you for your reply….but I must say I am more confused and concerned than I previously was.

You noted "The current (since Feb 2012) formulation for Helix Ultra Extra 5W-30 does not claim any formal ACEA specifications (including C2 & C3) " and "you need to meet MB 229.51".

The apparently new stock container that I have is marked with ACEA C3 and MB 229.51 amongst a number of other manufacturer approvals. Your website product information for this oil confirms this. The Chrysler MS11106 being deleted is the only information that seems to be different from previous.

It seems your advice is in conflict with the container and website information - or am I missing something??

Can this oil be safely used in my 2012 CRD Jeep Grand Cherokee without compromising the engine or Chrysler warranty?

I would appreciate if you can clarify.
Thanks"

This is turning into much harder work than I anticipated."

Shell must have thought this was getting a bit hard as they never replied and I wrote them off as shonky, and changed to the Mobil product.

I care because with the EGR and issues with carbon build up in the intake system reported with other manufacturers vehicles, it is important to me that the oil I use doesn't create issues down the track.
Why would a dealer care? Profit is the motive.
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I had my first 6 months service (overland CRD )
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First six month service today with 5670 km on the clock. I picked up the car, was on hurry and did not check anything. Out of the service centre and on the freeway. Just realised that I was leaving everyone behind in the lane cove tunnel. Looked at cluster and found that speedo had been changed miles. All of my radio and climate control setting had been changed. Seat was in incorrect position and mirrors were not in my normal position either. I asked them to check the rattle in sunroof but rattle was still there. They told me that it was fixed. Car had a number of marks of dirty hands on leather and on the body out side. Not happy with the service .
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