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Old 04-02-2014, 07:00 AM
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Re: CRD oil on special

Check out this post - SJANDL just had their Jeep GC serviced and look what oil the dealer used....Jeep service costs

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Re: CRD oil on special

Hi All, Please refer to following INTERESTING response from Nulon.
It seems there is another option.

Hi Dominic,


Thank you for your enquiry and support of Nulon Products.


Yes our FULL SYNTHETIC 5W-30 DIESEL FORMULA LONG LIFE ENGINE OIL (SYND5W30) meets & exceeds Chrysler MS-11106 performance specifications.


When Chrysler MS-11106 was developed in 2005 it was based on the ACEA C3-04 performance specifications with some additional bench tests added on to simulate high temperature operating conditions. These tests were designed to determine how the engine oil managed turbocharger and piston deposits in these high temperature operating conditions and were named the TEOST 33C & TEOST MHT-4 tests. When ACEA C3-08 performance specification was developed, which SYND5W30 also meets & exceeds, ACEA included both of the above TEOST tests as well as some more recent tests to simulate deposit formations within the engine and how the engine oil manages these.


We recommend you to use our FULL SYNTHETIC 5W-30 DIESEL FORMULA LONG LIFE ENGINE OIL (SYND5W30), see recommendation below.
CHRYSLER JEEP

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Service Refill Capacity: 7.7 Litres.



FULL SYNTHETIC 5W-30 DIESEL FORMULA LONG LIFE ENGINE OIL

Nulon Full Synthetic 5W-30 Diesel Formula Long Life Engine Oil is a dexos2 approved formula designed to provide the ultimate protection for all technically-advanced passenger car and light commercial petrol and diesel engines. Specifically formulated for vehicles that require a fuel conserving 5W-30 low viscosity engine oil while at the same time needing enhanced protection during long oil drain intervals. Safe to use in modern diesel engines fitted with catalysts and Diesel Particulate Filters (DPF).
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That's interesting. I suppose meets or exceeds is the closest they can go to having the actual approval.
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Re: CRD oil on special

I found this spec sheet dated 13 January 2014 from Shell. It has the Chrysler MS-11106 approval on it.

What do you think?

http://www.epc.shell.com/Docs/GPCDOC...)_(en)_TDS.pdf

Barboots - I also found the latest V4 spec sheet (I'm still searching for a specific date though) for Helix Ultra Extra 5W-30 and does state it is ACEA-C3 approved.
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Re: CRD oil on special

You can use my name SJandL

John's post a few up has Shell stating that it doesn't meet ACEA C3. Whilst I found that incredibly surprising to the point of struggling to believe it, I'd trust correspondence from their customer service department over a document with the caveat "subject to change". Especially as Shell admitted (quoted somewhere) that they had out of date documents at some online resources, and also had downgraded their oil spec through revision.

Madness really. All in all it seems nothing much has changed in oil marketing since the bad old days of lies and misinformation. Roll up, roll up...

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Re: CRD oil on special

Dominic the information from Nulon is really quite informative, isn't it? I was interested in what MS-11106 comprised... and there it is. Good work chasing that up.

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Re: CRD oil on special

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This is from the UK. Doing a quick search I haven't found any reference to it being available here on the Island.

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Argh you're right Steve. I don't know what to think anymore about Shell. Might purchase some Mobil for the 30,000 service in 6 months time.
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Re: CRD oil on special

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Dominic the information from Nulon is really quite informative, isn't it? I was interested in what MS-11106 comprised... and there it is. Good work chasing that up.

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The good thing is they actually make reference to the standard and state it complies. At least there is another option. If you're interested, on their website is the results of a friction test conducted in Germany comparing the major oils.
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Argh you're right Steve. I don't know what to think anymore about Shell. Might purchase some Mobil for the 30,000 service in 6 months time.
You now have another option - Nulon...decisions, decisions....
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That's interesting. I suppose meets or exceeds is the closest they can go to having the actual approval.
Remember "meets or exceeds" means, in their opinion it meets or exceeds. Far be it for me to suggest that a manufacturer would exaggerator performance claims but "approved to" would have been better. AFAIK, the industry is self regulated so we are at the mercy of their claims. The ACCC would not get involved unless a complainant came forward with credible data showing that a product did not meet or exceed the manufacturer's claims. I can't see that happening any time soon. No doubt it takes time and money to get these approvals but we are talking about oil companies here. They aren't exactly short of a quid.
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