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Re: Diesel - Shell, Caltex, BP, Mobil or 711?

In a past life I worked for one of the multinational Oil Companies. One of the roles was in audit which involved counting the stock. This included the addative tanks for refined fuels where our special addatives were meant to be added. In all the time that I did that job I never had to dip those tanks because the total volume in them was Zero. In those days didn't matter what diesel you bought, it was all the same. Might have changed now but I suspect not, you get what comes out of the refinery.
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Re: Diesel - Shell, Caltex, BP, Mobil or 711?

Maybe things have changed a little over the years.

If you believe what the guys say at the BP Kwinan refinery, Diesel now costs more to produce than petrol, when in years gone by Petrol was more expensive to produce.

BP Ultimate diesel specs vary a little between standard diesel and Ultimate diesel, the Centane MIN is slightly higher on Ultimate, plus extra additives etc.
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Diesel can not cost more to produce then the very heavily refined petrol variants.

Remember your chemistry classes

However yes they have added an addition process - cracking - which reduces the sulfur content to almost zero
This is required from the modern high performance diesel motors
How much this adds to the refinery process i think is not as much as they tell us
Remember when the price of crude oil in singapore goes up then the petrol price goes up the next day but when that price comes down - well you will die of old age before the price at the pump is reduced - fuel in Australia is just one big rip off.

One other point not sure its happening here but in some places refined fuel is being brought into some part f Australia from Asia refineries, so who knows f the quality of that supplier.
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Re: Diesel - Shell, Caltex, BP, Mobil or 711?

Yes, we get a lot of imported fuel in WA.
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Re: Diesel - Shell, Caltex, BP, Mobil or 711?

I've been happily buying the local Shell diesel using a Coles discount voucher. Reading the foregoing has opened my eyes and I realise now that what I've been getting is just standard diesel despite the servo being in a suburban area away from truck routes. So I've looked around and found it not easy to find premium diesel. BP has an online store locator that can be filtered for fuel types. The one and only time I managed to get it to work, it found me a servo in Pymble (Sydney) with Ultimate diesel. That figures, Pymble is in the heart of European status SUV country. I went there to try it. They did indeed have Ultimate. However, the only diesel pump they had operational was a high flow truck pump off to the side. No worries, I got to use a high flow pump for the first time. No dramas either, just a bit of spillage at the end. They have two diesel pumps on the concourse but they were out of action. The servo operator explained that they are waiting to have filters fitted before BP allows them to pump the Ultimate. I was impressed. If nothing else, at least one gets filtered fuel for the extra 2 cents/litre that Ultimate costs over standard diesel. I'm prepared to pay the extra for premium. I figure if we don't use it, we loose it.
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Re: Diesel - Shell, Caltex, BP, Mobil or 711?

Well you got me Bob...I can't fit a high flow nozzle down the filler in our CRD. DId you just point and grit your teeth?

In Cunnamulla Qld the only servos in town (there are 2) have high flow nozzles but the Mobil dealer (also only with high flow) has a welded up funnel adapter - and yep you have to guess when to stop or otherwise wear it.
Not nice climbing back in for another stint behind the wheel.
A high flow adapter from poly pipe is on my to do list - we do get fills from out in the scrub (and filtered diesel is a city luxury!).
I know it's off topic but I couldn't resist.
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Re: Diesel - Shell, Caltex, BP, Mobil or 711?

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Well you got me Bob...I can't fit a high flow nozzle down the filler in our CRD. DId you just point and grit your teeth?

In Cunnamulla Qld the only servos in town (there are 2) have high flow nozzles but the Mobil dealer (also only with high flow) has a welded up funnel adapter - and yep you have to guess when to stop or otherwise wear it.
Not nice climbing back in for another stint behind the wheel.
A high flow adapter from poly pipe is on my to do list - we do get fills from out in the scrub (and filtered diesel is a city luxury!).
I know it's off topic but I couldn't resist.
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I use the high flow pump regularly at the local BP, it sits right beside the standard (slow) flow pump but it saves me at least 3 minutes on a empty to full tank. I have to be a little more careful but haven't had any spillage yet
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Re: Diesel - Shell, Caltex, BP, Mobil or 711?

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Well you got me Bob...I can't fit a high flow nozzle down the filler in our CRD. DId you just point and grit your teeth?
That is pretty well what I did. Most of the time I had to have the handle just half pressed to stop the blow back. The cut-out sensor doesn't work at all. I guess the nozzel has to be right down the filler pipe, which is not possible with the Jeep. It's just like the old days when one had to listen for the gurgle comming up the filler pipe.

Sssh! John, I'd keep quiet about that adaptor if I was you, at least until you patent it. That would undoubtedly become a must have 4x4 accessory.
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Re: Diesel - Shell, Caltex, BP, Mobil or 711?

Update: I emailed Gilbarco to ask if there was a fast flow adaptor available. Their reply was short and sweet, "Regarding your enquiry below, this cannot be done."
I suspect they are more concerned with safety legislation etc. Fancy saying, "...this cannot be done" to a Jeep owner. Anyway John, I think they have just thrown you a challenge. Go for it!
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Re: Diesel - Shell, Caltex, BP, Mobil or 711?

I tried out bp ultimate diesel today. It's available on std pump at bp Ashfield off parramatta road. There is no change to engine noise. However immediately after filling up i noticed the jeep having more up and go ,acceleration also felt more direct/linear.
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