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Guys, I am a little confused with the hook at the rear of the car. I have always thought that this was the tow hook and not a recovery hook. However, I seem to be getting a mixed messages from the web that people seem to think that this is a recovery hook. Who is correct here. Do we need to install a dedicated recovery hook at the back (just like we are doing at front) or can this tow hook be used to recover from the back?


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Re: Grand Cherokee + sand = FAIL

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Oh no.

I'm worried if you are asking a question like this - do you understand how tides work? High and low tides change every day. Best place to look up tides is on the Maritime NSW website.

I ran 20psi, but the sand was hard packed.

I would recommend that anyone new to 4x4 always go with someone experienced or do a course to learn some basic skills and find out in a controlled environment what your car and yourself are capable of undertaking.

But it is your call in respect of what you are willing to try on your own.
Very very sound advice......

The standard rear hook is designed to accommodate recovery forces. These can be extreme and if something goes wrong there is a likelihood of significant consequences.

At the very least understand the risks before venturing into a situation where a recovery may be necessary.

NEVER allow someone to hook up to your vehicle unless you are very certain of the gear being used and the competency of the other person.
I've seen major vehicle damage after incorrect recovery techniques were used.

There has been loss of life.
Plenty of scarey stuff available via Google.
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Re: Grand Cherokee + sand = FAIL

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Guys, I am a little confused with the hook at the rear of the car. I have always thought that this was the tow hook and not a recovery hook. However, I seem to be getting a mixed messages from the web that people seem to think that this is a recovery hook. Who is correct here. Do we need to install a dedicated recovery hook at the back (just like we are doing at front) or can this tow hook be used to recover from the back?


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The one at the back is a legit recovery hook fitted from new and retained if you had a genuine Mopar towbar installed. The more qualified on this forum will advise you how to recover using your tow hitch reciever assuming you have a towbar (ie remove the towball assembly from the car and slip a recovery strap through the towhitch retaining pin). Either method gets to recovered PROVIDED you can indeed be pulled backwards. Not sure if a snatch strap can be used with a rearwards recovery?
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Re: Grand Cherokee + sand = FAIL

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Not sure if a snatch strap can be used with a rearwards recovery?
Sure can - but a whole lot harder to get the timing right between the puller and the pullee.
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Re: Grand Cherokee + sand = FAIL

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I dug up old copies of emails from my dealer when I was chasing mine early last year - the relevent bits are :

XXX's vehicle does indeed qualify for a recovery hook kit, as it was
ordered prior to the sales teams being notified of the change of specification of MY2012 models.

I have read the bulletin and the 20th is the cut off date is there any
flexibility for this customer?

So basically, If you ordered before 20/1/12, you should get the recovery hook for free.

I ordered my GC in Sept 2011.
Thats interesting. My dealer had no problem charging me $350 for my hook! Looks like if you don't know, they will charge you!
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Guys I imagine if you are carrying maxtrax or similar your chance of getting out of a bog are much higher especially if you are not bogged to your axels. I am planning to taking along these with me.

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Best plan is to not get bogged - especially not to the axles......
Not an easy job digging out 2400kg that is sitting on its belly with the tide coming in - results in a very abrupt learning curve.
Taking aids and knowing how to use them is definitely worth while as part of your overall trip plan.
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Re: Grand Cherokee + sand = FAIL

Rear tow bar used as recovery point
Never just slip the recovery strap - snatch strap into the recovery hitch using the retaining pin to hold the strap. The pin was never designed for this purpose
You can however buy a purpose built recovery nitch which is a solid bilet and replaces when needed the tow hitch
This meathod now becomes very safe and useable.
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Unfortunately my GC was not updated yesterday. This is of course a huge disappointment especially considering the run around I have been given and being told that it was available.

When I picked it up and was told that it was not done, I was told that Chrysler HO told them that if the fix had to be done immediately they would have to remove the transfer module and send it to Melbourne to get updated. This would mean the vehicle would be out of action for a week - which I declined.

I will be ringing Tracey today to get her version of events as it seems the dealers are being given mixed messages from HO. Tracey originally told me that they would be shipping a module over to Perth ready for fitment to my GC yesterday.

John Hughes have been fantastic, I lay this issue at Jeeps feet not the dealer. Btw for anyone in Perth, they are about $100 cheaper per service than any other dealer.

As for the front tow hook, my dealer did the righty by me. When I got a quote, they asked me when I ordered the GC and said if it were before the 20th of Jan we could apply to Jeep for a free fitment.

I'm heading out on the sand again this weekend. I will have to keep it in 4wd low. I can confirm that this does prevent you getting stuck, as I have had the 'service 4wd' light come on several times whilst in this mode and the 4wd remains engaged.
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Re: Grand Cherokee + sand = FAIL

By the way NEVER use the tow ball as a recovery point - people have been killed doing that
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Sullz can you keep us updated. I have mine booked for 1st Feb and service manager informed me that it would take 3 to 4hrs. He didn't mention anything about sending stuff to Melbourne, etc. I thought this was simply an update not a replacement of the module. Why would they send it to Melbourne?

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Re: Grand Cherokee + sand = FAIL

When mine was done they said it would take 3-4 hours also (I'm sure it doesn't really take that long).
Apparently they can only apply the software update to a module in Melbourne (something to do with the equipment needed to reflash it), So, they either have to remove your module and send it to Melbourne for update then have it sent back (hence the 1 week delay), or they can have a replacement module with the software sent from Melbourne to your dealer and ready when you take your car in so you can have the module swapped out and not have to wait... I think the module swap can only be arranged by Chrysler and not the dealer.
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