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Old 11-02-2013, 05:39 AM
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Re: Grand Cherokee + sand = FAIL

I just got back from a week at Fraser. It had the deepest softest sand I have ever seen there all the times I have been there. I've done it in a triton, 120 prado and now the jeep. The jeep is an exceptionally capable vehicle. Yes it is different to drive than the mech 4x4s and as said above you drive it differently, but it's still an enjoyable and challenging experience.... Old mate who wrote off the jeep a few pages back will need to buy. Gu patrol if he still wants mech, or 100 series cruiser. The new cruisers and prados now have electronic centre diff locks and driving aids... I'm also confused... Is there any real difference in the outcome between pushing a button to engage a rear diff lock or switching a dial so the traction control stops wheel spin?

Ps did orchid beach to Indian head in auto (forgot to put it in sand mode) so the etc AND esc were still engaged and had no problems....

Pps never got sand fix I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, 3 weeks on Fraser in total with no issues...
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Yep let's see the mechanic at Top Springs plug in the Toyota scan tool in to a new Prado or 200 (he might know how to fix a 75 ute but anything newer good luck), and as for parts yeh right they don't carry any, your going to have to freight them in just like I would for my GC .
I've had 0 problems with electronics in the 2 years I've owned the GC, the reality is any new 4x4 has the pretty much same electricary as the GC and the same potential for problems as the GC, so if you don't like electronic aides you had better buy a 15 year old 4x4.
Most problems that occur while traveling remote have to do with tyres, suspension, bad fuel or animal strike, the GC is no more or less likely to have these than any other 4x4 IMO
That's why I said I'd probably stick with the 100 if I was doing that kind of driving. I've had problems, but it seems most mechanics are familiar with them. I would think most popular dual cabs are a similar story. I'm not saying a GC wouldn't do a lot of these trips, but there is more potential for electronics to play up, and then not be able to find someone to fix it. None of that will stop me buying a GC, I can live with electronics problems if they occur, but I'd be concerned doing big trips in isolated areas.
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:30 PM
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Re: Grand Cherokee + sand = FAIL

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Once again I have to disagree guys. The Jeep has an awesome 4wd system - there is nothing soft about it. Why don't you do some research on Quadra Drive, you are kidding yourself if you think the 4wd system in a land cruiser or Prado is better.
I agree, I'm buying one, the GC seems just as capable as my 100. But that isn't the issue I'm raising.
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I think the big offroading misconception, between the Jeep and the Land Cruiser comes down to the livery. Many think the Cruiser is the most capable 4WD on the road, but in fact it equals the Jeep. The big difference causing this misconception is that they are generally comparing a standard Jeep to a Cruiser with aftermarket suspension, lifted, and with huge offroad tyres. Compare a standard Cruiser to the Jeep, and a different result.
Yep, I have a stock standard 100 sahara with mickey thomson ATZ. No mods. It gets most places I want to go, when it does get stuck it is either tyre pressures or lack of locking diffs that gets me. I think the GC with the ELSD would help a bit there, also a little less weight should help. So I think (without having taken a GC to my usual spots, yet) the GC will be more capable, if anything. I'd just be concerned about being let down by the electronics at some point or trying to get parts/mechanics out in the middle of nowhere.
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:43 PM
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Re: Grand Cherokee + sand = FAIL

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I just got back from a week at Fraser. It had the deepest softest sand I have ever seen there all the times I have been there. I've done it in a triton, 120 prado and now the jeep. The jeep is an exceptionally capable vehicle. Yes it is different to drive than the mech 4x4s and as said above you drive it differently, but it's still an enjoyable and challenging experience.... Old mate who wrote off the jeep a few pages back will need to buy. Gu patrol if he still wants mech, or 100 series cruiser. The new cruisers and prados now have electronic centre diff locks and driving aids... I'm also confused... Is there any real difference in the outcome between pushing a button to engage a rear diff lock or switching a dial so the traction control stops wheel spin?

Ps did orchid beach to Indian head in auto (forgot to put it in sand mode) so the etc AND esc were still engaged and had no problems....

Pps never got sand fix I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, 3 weeks on Fraser in total with no issues...

Hi,

I haven't been to fraser yet, just straddie, DIP and a few places inland. Is the GC the only 'soft roader' you see on the sand at fraser? Do any other SUV type vehicles get out there?

On straddie I generally only see the standard 4WDs, utes, the odd disco/defender, and old pathfinders. I was a bit shocked to see a mitsu ASX heading up teewah beach one day.....
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Re: Grand Cherokee + sand = FAIL

I am not 100% certain, but i believe T.C. button lights up in sand mode. Light on equals off. I'll check tomorrow
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I am not 100% certain, but i believe T.C. button lights up in sand mode. Light on equals off. I'll check tomorrow

That is correct WillJeep, at least on my MY13.

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Old 11-04-2013, 01:30 AM
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I am not 100% certain, but i believe T.C. button lights up in sand mode. Light on equals off. I'll check tomorrow
In Jeep talk, off is not really off. What I think they mean is that when operating in a mode other than Auto, the TC operates in a way that may no longer be compliant with the automatic stability control requirements of your road authority. In other words, it may be illegal to drive it on the road in that mode. As someone pointed out, deliberately turning the TC off doesn't disable it. It still kicks in but much later allowing one to have just a bit of fun.
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:44 AM
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Hi,

I haven't been to fraser yet, just straddie, DIP and a few places inland. Is the GC the only 'soft roader' you see on the sand at fraser? Do any other SUV type vehicles get out there?

On straddie I generally only see the standard 4WDs, utes, the odd disco/defender, and old pathfinders. I was a bit shocked to see a mitsu ASX heading up teewah beach one day.....
GC is not a softroader I would class anything without low range and/or some sort of locking centre diff or transfer case as a softroader. Like the ASX, cx7, xtrail, dualis, kluger, rav4, territory, captiva, etc. And yep, I've seen most of those up Teewah beach too!

I've had my GC on Fraser and Moreton a several times on each. Never seen many softroaders on Fraser (especially not past Indian Head - with the exception of a Territory at Orchid beach - that was impressive). Saw a few smaller softroaders around Kingfisher bay (close to a barge), but most got bogged.
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Hi,

I haven't been to fraser yet, just straddie, DIP and a few places inland. Is the GC the only 'soft roader' you see on the sand at fraser? Do any other SUV type vehicles get out there?

On straddie I generally only see the standard 4WDs, utes, the odd disco/defender, and old pathfinders. I was a bit shocked to see a mitsu ASX heading up teewah beach one day.....
I agree with Brett. It is certainly not a soft roader. It might look like it from the outside but underneath its a very impressive set up with a long lineage of hard core 4wd systems.

Some soft roaders have a locking centre diff but no low range transfer case is an issue. Also lower ground clearance also affects these cars trying to drive through tracks worn by proper 4x4s, they bottom out and get stuck on their belly.

To answer your question you rarely see soft roaders there, esp north of Indian head. I've seen a kluger not even make it to the barge at rainbow beach. One time we got stuck behind an xtrail that kept getting bogged on the inland trails and it had to be pulled all the way through. Saw a rav4 there last week but it was with a big group and no doubt would have been pulled from Indian to orchid beach. You mostly see utes, cruisers, prados, pajeros, the odd disco and rangie. I've also seen a Touraeg, an MB M class , an Audi A7 and a Porsche cayenne up at orchid beach over the years.
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Re: Grand Cherokee + sand = FAIL

I had my Valiant Charger on Rainbow beach and did not get bogged. 2WD with very wide tyres. The looks I got from the 4x4 crowd was priceless. Did great Donuts as well :-)
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GC is not a softroader I would class anything without low range and/or some sort of locking centre diff or transfer case as a softroader. Like the ASX, cx7, xtrail, dualis, kluger, rav4, territory, captiva, etc. And yep, I've seen most of those up Teewah beach too!

I've had my GC on Fraser and Moreton a several times on each. Never seen many softroaders on Fraser (especially not past Indian Head - with the exception of a Territory at Orchid beach - that was impressive). Saw a few smaller softroaders around Kingfisher bay (close to a barge), but most got bogged.
Ok, I class anything that is monocoque/unibody as a soft roader. Ladder chassis is a truck/4WD..... IMO.
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