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The RRO one is an option but the winch mount assembly is required even if you don't install a winch.

I'll wait a few more and see what comes up.
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Re: installing chief bash plate and recovery hook

Yep, and it really only covers the radiator, not the washer bottle and compressor down low. I have seen some guys cutting their airdam to fit around the RRO prerunner, but I don't like that idea.
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So with this bash plate in place, you can remove the air dams before you leave the house when going offroad without worrying about ripping the felt liners?
Been there, done that, it won't happen again. Unfortunately I bought a new felt liner or belly pan as Mopar calls it. I should have waited for bash plate.
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Yes, someone needs to build this:

A perfect solution for off-road. However, two things worry me:
  1. The aerodynamics of the air-dam is gone replaced by what is almost an air-ram to under the car. At freeway speeds the front could get quite light and floaty.
  2. Jeep has put a lot of effort into ducting air from a relatively large opening in the air-dam to the bottom of the radiators. This has just a few holes and no ducting. Will this provide sufficient cooling when say, towing a trailer up a hill?
I really don't know how to get around this without virtually replicating the original. Perhaps metal where stone and stick protection is needed and a cheap clip-on plastic cover to provide the aerodynamics and ducting.
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A perfect solution for off-road. However, two things worry me:
  1. The aerodynamics of the air-dam is gone replaced by what is almost an air-ram to under the car. At freeway speeds the front could get quite light and floaty.
  2. Jeep has put a lot of effort into ducting air from a relatively large opening in the air-dam to the bottom of the radiators. This has just a few holes and no ducting. Will this provide sufficient cooling when say, towing a trailer up a hill?
I really don't know how to get around this without virtually replicating the original. Perhaps metal where stone and stick protection is needed and a cheap clip-on plastic cover to provide the aerodynamics and ducting.
Yes, I wasn't sure about the airflow issue. I used the RRO prerunner as the basis for the photoshop, but I would prefer something a bit more open with maybe a steel mesh behind it, all painted black?

I'm not too concerned about the aerodynamic issue, the ARB and uneek bars have a similar shape.
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Re: installing chief bash plate and recovery hook

Maybe the pre-runner could be a bit more open like this one:

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Re: installing chief bash plate and recovery hook

A big issue is the ACC mount, not sure what you could do for that...

I'm going a bit off topic here, I might start a pre-runner thread.
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Re: installing chief bash plate and recovery hook

Hey Guys,

My apologies, I just saw this thread. I'll be posting a more in-depth response to the issues here in the coming days.

@fireball - Sorry the installation didn't go smoothly. And especially sorry about the loss of blood! I'm updating our installation instructions to address the issues you mentioned, as well as looking for a way to remove those sharp edges. As I said, I'll post a more in-depth response soon.

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I got my Chief hooks and bash plate in too. Did it single handedly on a leisurely Saturday arvo. The hooks were a piece of cake, the plate not so cake like. After having put in the front three bolts, there was no way I could get the rear two bolts to catch into those stupid speed nuts. I needed the holes in the rear of the plate to be a couple of mm more rearward. After trying everything, even filing a taper on the end of the bolts, I took out the front bolts and fitted the rear bolts first. That worked. Note that I have the Mopar sump skid plate which didn't help. Unfortunately, with all the mucking around, I think I stripped the thread on one the front bolts. It's probably a helicoil job but for another day. Speaking of stupid speed nuts, we have both the front of the 3mm Mopar sump skid plate and the rear of the 3mm Chief bash plate held up by just two speed nuts. That does not fill me with a lot of confidence.
OK, got the helicoil kit. Before I got started I thought I'd check the other two of the tree front bolts on the bash plate. Sure enough, I stripped another one. When I drilled out the two holes, I was surprised to find no nut welded behind the plate, only the 2mm plate to screw into. With the 1mm pitch on the M6 bolt, that leaves only 2 turns of mild steel thread at best. Little wonder it stripped. Also I think the shank on the M6 bolts is a bit too long for the 3mm bash plate. This may have contributed to the stripping (something for Bill to look at). I got the helicoils in which was a bit tricky because of the thinness of the plate. Normally one would screw them in about 1/4 turn below the surface but because there is so little thread to work with, I left the helicoil slightly proud. Now that I know there is nothing behind the plate, if I have further issues, I'll use large self-tappers or maybe compressible inserts.
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i dont think i can be bothered fixing the thread myself... will just call a mobile thread repair guy
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i dont think i can be bothered fixing the thread myself... will just call a mobile thread repair guy
BTW, is your bash plate 3mm or 5mm?
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