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Old 11-19-2015, 07:40 AM
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Hell, put some sand in it.

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Re: MS11106 - Attached

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John,
If you intend to keep your cars for only three years as you did the MY12, it wouldn't matter what oil you used in fact it probably wouldn't matter if you never changed the oil at all.
Not in my nature unfortunately…….whoever got our old one got a goodie!

And you are right, almost any oil would do as well - I just got really pissed off at Shell over their shonky marketing. They were doing it in 2011 and haven't changed.
And anyway - this engine is so good it deserves a little treat from time to time. It will be interesting to see what the oil life indicator says at 10K.

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Re: MS11106 - Attached

Think the oil life indicator is a waste of time. Mine drops 1% ever 200kms regardless of the conditions.
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yes its a calendar function as I understand and doesn't perform any analysis

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yes its a calendar function as I understand and doesn't perform any analysis

How Oil Change Indicators Work - John's Auto Spa
Umm - depends on where you get your information. I take WK2 Jeeps info as pretty much gospel.

I posted this in the Jeep service costs thread relating to a post by Bob T commenting on his service indicator……

"Pretty sure that CJD vehicles in Australia have the most severe service schedule anywhere in the world - and its not because of the conditions they operate in!

Just went to WK2Jeeps where I should have gone in the first place….no info relating to the diesel - but this for the petrol……and a little note that says for export vehicles the indicator system is disabled - it wasn't on our 2012!

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"Schedules A and B have long been a part of required and recommended maintenance on Chrysler Group vehicles. One drawback of using these schedules is that customers sometimes end up making a best "guesstimate" of the correct maintenance interval.

With the introduction of the Oil Change Indicator system, that's going to change - customers are automatically notified via the cluster or EVIC that an oil change is required. In addition, the system does away with Schedules A and B and instead combines both into easy-to-use lists and tables.

The Oil Change Indicator system uses the Powertrain Control Module to process a variety of inputs and then decides on an oil change interval. The factors which point toward severe use include the following:

Ambient temperature inputs which indicate extended periods of low temperature operation
Average vehicle speeds which indicate stop-and-go driving
Run time which indicates prolonged idling
Trip lengths and coolant temperatures which indicate short trips
Engine RPM and engine loads which indicate trailer tow usage
Fuel indications of an ethanol percentage of 60 percent or greater
The system cannot keep track of dusty conditions or time elapsed since the last maintenance. In fact, it is possible for the maximum allowable maintenance time interval to elapse without an oil change reminder. In such a case, it is the owner's responsibility to ensure that maintenance is performed according to the recommended interval.

Based on the inputs, at a fixed number of miles since the last reset, the Powertrain Control Module decides on the severity of the operating conditions. If one or more of the conditions indicates severe use, the PCM sends a message over the bus so that the appropriate message can be displayed. If the PCM decides that the normal service interval applies, it waits until additional mileage has accumulated before sending out the request for a message."
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Ok, better than I thought and should provide a reasonable basis. Obviously the full proof measure is an assessment of the active additive left in the oil.
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Ok, better than I thought and should provide a reasonable basis. Obviously the full proof measure is an assessment of the active additive left in the oil.
Swampy has posted great information with his Blackstone oil tests of the Mobil 1 ESP he uses.
1st Oil Test M1 ESP 5W30 MY12 JGC 3.0L Diesel
The TBN numbers and the comments indicate his engine and the M1 oil can go longer than the 10K changes he runs.
it would be interesting to see an oil test result with the change extended till the oil change indicator comes up.

I'm not that fussed, to me a 10K change isn't an issue in the overall scheme.
Our 2012 at nearly 100K was really strong and having drunk M1 all its life and with 10K changes I was confident it was in as good condition internally as possible.
The newie will drink the same.
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Yes my tests say the same.. 15K is the current estimate.
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