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MY2014 GC Limited Springs

Hi, have done a search but can't find what I am looking for. I have a pretty heavy boat and the grand cherokee sags a fair bit in the rear. I am looking to get some sniffer springs that can be compatible with the self levelling suspension. I Am in wa, anyone got any ideas on where I can find something?

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Old 09-09-2014, 02:40 AM
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What is the downball weight from this? Seems to be excessive if it is causing a notable amount of sag.
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Re: MY2014 GC Limited Springs

Wilkinson Suspension in Bayswater, or go direct to King Springs. Consider that if you increase the spring rate, the OEM shock absorbers will possibly have insufficient damping to control them. You'd probably also find the ride quality too harsh when the trailer isn't in tow.

As Snuke has suggested, check your trailer ball weight... it's possible that your trailer isn't balanced optimally. It's also possible that it's hell big! Maybe shoot us some more info?

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Re: MY2014 GC Limited Springs

Not sure on the tow ball weight. Boat itself is 7.5m Ali. Including the trailer it is 9.5m long and comes in just under 3.5t. When I put the boat on it sags heaps, and when I start moving the suspension "pumps up" and makes it less extreme but still noticeable. Sorry that's all the info I have.
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It sounds like you’re exceeding the down ball limit by a massive amount. Someone with some actual knowledge about towing and suspension etc.. will know what that actually means. Does putting in stiffer springs alleviate the down ball weight issue, or is this also chassis related?

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Re: MY2014 GC Limited Springs

I'm not sure where that was directed, however it's obvious you can't legally exceed the manufacturer's limits. There wasn't much information at hand... a worn spring can't do the work it could originally and would need replacement. I checked Jarrid's other posts and his Grand is quite new... and diesel. We don't know the passenger and luggage load, so it's not exactly clear cut yet. The ball weight could be fine and the rear axle grossly overloaded.

I wouldn't like to rely on the self levelling suspension at high loads myself, due to suspension 101 "the springs carry the weight" and the anecdotal problems with SLS shock mounts. That said, it is supposed to manage it...

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If there is so much sag it is noticible, somethings not right, be the weight on the ball, or as you suggest the load in the car, something is being exceeeeeeeeded.

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Re: MY2014 GC Limited Springs

Pretty much nothing in the car and rear is higher than front without the boat on. Car is my2014 and a year old. Might have to check the weight on the ball...below is shot as weight is put on and after it has "pumped up". Boat is large but under 3.5t and towed easily.





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That's a big ass boat! Looks to be sitting on the trailer correctly though.
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Looks like my old Falcon towing the loaded horse float, and that was not good.
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Re: MY2014 GC Limited Springs

Do you weight distribution system fitted
Or some people call them ride levelers
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Re: MY2014 GC Limited Springs

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Hiho Silver... away!

Sorry... that was not helpful... but it was the first thing that came to mind. Where's your nearest weighbridge, and when are you going? ;-)

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