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Re: No tow hooks? Front Recovery Soluition help

no there are no holes for mounting hooks
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Re: No tow hooks? Front Recovery Soluition help

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no there are no holes for mounting hooks
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Any one see any issues with driling 2 holes in the front cross member the same as the 2011 model
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Any one see any issues with driling 2 holes in the front cross member the same as the 2011 model
I would check with a dealer. I am guessing that Jeep just stopped drilling those 2 holes, and that the chassis rails are the same, minus the holes.
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Re: No tow hooks? Front Recovery Soluition help

I would not drill into any structural part of the car as it could cause you a whole world of pain.
Aside from weakening the chassis, you risk causing problems with rust.
I would make it Jeeps problem and ask them WTF they are going to do about this issue.
It is a bit pointless having a 4x4 without any means of recovery points. Even though I do not plan to 4x4 my car, I would expect it to have this basic safety requirement.
I also thought that you are required to have recovery points front and rear to gain ADR's.
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I would not drill into any structural part of the car as it could cause you a whole world of pain.
Aside from weakening the chassis, you risk causing problems with rust.
I would make it Jeeps problem and ask them WTF they are going to do about this issue.
It is a bit pointless having a 4x4 without any means of recovery points. Even though I do not plan to 4x4 my car, I would expect it to have this basic safety requirement.
I also thought that you are required to have recovery points front and rear to gain ADR's.
The 2012 WK2 has an eye bolt packed beside the spare....As I understand it the plastic cover is removed from the front panel and the 30mm diameter bolt part is pushed into the existing bracket and the nut tightened up.
in my opinion the eye bolt looks a bit flimsy for a full blown recovery, and not least a pain to fit up if at the time you are stuck in goop already.
There is a substantial rear hook still fitted.
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The 2012 WK2 has an eye bolt packed beside the spare....As I understand it the plastic cover is removed from the front panel and the 30mm diameter bolt part is pushed into the existing bracket and the nut tightened up.
in my opinion the eye bolt looks a bit flimsy for a full blown recovery, and not least a pain to fit up if at the time you are stuck in goop already.
There is a substantial rear hook still fitted.
My issues is that I want to tow a camper trailer so the rear hook is no good for recovery in sand
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Re: No tow hooks? Front Recovery Soluition help

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The 2012 WK2 has an eye bolt packed beside the spare....As I understand it the plastic cover is removed from the front panel and the 30mm diameter bolt part is pushed into the existing bracket and the nut tightened up.
in my opinion the eye bolt looks a bit flimsy for a full blown recovery, and not least a pain to fit up if at the time you are stuck in goop already.
There is a substantial rear hook still fitted.
Anyone that have their Jeep with the eye bolt recovery take some pics with them installed?
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Re: No tow hooks? Front Recovery Soluition help

Today I lodged a written complaint with Chrysler with regards to no Recovery Hooks on the 2012 Grand Cherokee, Let see what happens
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Thanks - Good Luck! I'm happy to send a follow up or sign a petition.

Not sure how you will go. My perception is that no-one here (in Australia) actually knows anything. I don't know where the decision came from to delete the hooks but it seems like it was handed down to us from the US as a result of the EURO (ncap) lobby.

I spoke to my service department, who are also looking at a solution - they said that they aren't allowed to drill holes in the chassis rail, or if they do they need to send it to a compliance company to ensure it still complies. There is one said company in Toowoomba and we are looking into it.
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Re: No tow hooks? Front Recovery Soluition help

I would also support a petition to Chrysler Aust.
Why not open publish the letter to them here?
That way, it would be public, and can be cloned for further letters.
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I would also support a petition to Chrysler Aust.
Why not open publish the letter to them here?
That way, it would be public, and can be cloned for further letters.
If anyone wants the contact details at Chrysler please let me know

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Re: No tow hooks? Front Recovery Soluition help

Exract From: Talking Jeep Oz

"Jeep Grand Cherokee 2012 Recovery Hook Announcement

Numerous complaints from purchasers of the 2012 Grand Cherokee regarding the deletion of front recovery hooks has led Chrysler Jeep Australia to officially advise dealers that the screw in Tow Hooks supplied with 2012 models are not suitable for four wheel drive recovery and are only rated for very light towing duties.
In an official dealer bulletin distributed today they also stated that the 2011 recovery hooks can not be fitted to the 2012 model as the front of the vehicle has been modified and there is no mounting bar for the factory hooks to bolt to.
The reason given for the deletion of the 2011 recovery hooks was to comply with ANCAP pedestrian safety requirements and European regulations for pedestrian impact. Also prospective future Australian legislation that could bring Euro regulations to Australia.
Seeing that the Jeep Grand Cherokee has not been ANCAP tested in Australia (only Euro-NCAP and US ) this seems like a feeble excuse. It looks more like Jeep Australia are being dictated to by Jeep in the US that they must take European specification vehicles instead of the 2011 specification that Australian buyers were expecting at the time of purchase. It appears that Jeep only want to build one version for export at the cost of customer expectations. This is the very first real 4WD Jeep to be sold in Australia without being fitted with suitable hooks for 4WD recovery.
We have been told that Jeep Australia are evaluating retro fitting of suitable recovery hooks and also a new designed Nudge Bar that will incorporate recovery hooks.
In the meantime owners wishing to use their 2012 Grand Cherokee in 4WD terrain can only safely drive on 2WD roads. Venture onto 4WD trails and get stuck in some mud and your Jeep can not be recovered without major damage to the vehicle. Under no circumstances should owners use the screw in tow eye hook for any recovery as it is not rated for recovery."

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